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BillyJ
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Touring France and General Touring Advice Reply with quote

First time touring, I'm going 2 up with my girlfriend on the Bandit, going to start from London and go to France via Dover - Calais.

Has anyone got any recommendations of places to go that aren't too far and preferably are down nice country roads. Also any advice on these topics would be greatly appreciated:

How far are petrol stations apart?
International driving permits?
Reflective sticker things for your helmet?
Toll roads?
Carrying alcohol breath tests?
Compulsory spare bulbs?
POI's?
Biker friendly B&Bs?

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Touring France and General Touring Advice Reply with quote

There are petrol stations everywhere
permits not needed if you have a licence valid in the uk
reflective stickers are needed by law
tolls, if you want to get to a destination quickly, if touring and in no rush, save the money.
breath testers no longer carry a fine but still required by law..
spare bulbs are not compulsory, having all your lights working at all times is.
poi's, as in sat nav? google places you want to visit and save them on your sat nav
biker friendly b&b's. That is just about all of them, it isn't the uk and in euro bikers are welcomed, not seen as scum as we are here. Pull up and be made welcome, they will usually find somewhere safe to put the bike and be given a beer.

In the uk your bike will be required to be left in the hedge at the other end of the car park and given the shittest room available.
Paying extra for places that have 'motorcycle friendly' in the name is not a required expense in euro.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never bothered with reflective stickers, never been questioned about it in ~10k French miles.

Never bothered with kits either since the enforcement is toothless and I don't drink and ride.

Never bothered with UK sticker or license plate with country code either.

Having spare headlight bulbs is just good sense, don't want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere after nightfall. Other bulbs you can pick up in French equivalent of Halfords etc.

Tolls are about as expensive as petrol on the motorcycle, maybe a little less, for distance travelled. Good for crossing France quickly, as I tend to do these days, as I've seen a good chunk of it. When you stay off the toll roads, many of the roads are Roman-style, straight, with occasional villages, and quickly get boring. Normally though I've only got a couple of weeks and want to spend most of it in somewhere not-France.

Generally use booking.com the night before to book the next night's accommodation. Check the weather to determine where to go; don't book in advance and your plans can be very flexible.

Petrol stations are indeed everywhere. Supermarkets like Super-U and Carrefour often have attached petrol stations, these are usually 24-hour and work with debit and credit cards.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never known anyone get done for not having restriction fitted but people still get them to avoid the possible arse raping of plod.

I've never been asked in the 100k of euro mileage i've done in europe in the last few years but handing over 135 euros isn't something i'd relish after saving £2 on stickers.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrkel wrote:

Generally use booking.com the night before to book the next night's accommodation. Check the weather to determine where to go; don't book in advance and your plans can be very flexible.


So there's internet in almost all B&Bs?
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
barrkel wrote:

Generally use booking.com the night before to book the next night's accommodation. Check the weather to determine where to go; don't book in advance and your plans can be very flexible.


So there's internet in almost all B&Bs?


There will be in many. I just use my mobile. For £3 per day while abroad I use my UK contract, saves massive bills.

Many providers will do a euro add on.

You can use other wifi for restaurants etc or walk down a street and blag an unsecured connection.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As per Marmalade, just use internet on phone. Easy to find rooms on Late Rooms or similar. No problem with it last year in France/Germany. Very pro biker compared to here.
No issues with reflective stickers, the French don't seem to bother either.
How long are you going for?
I always think its worth while getting down past Reims day one. Alsace region (just west of Colmar is pretty good)
Also consider how close you are to Black Forest and some stunning roads (plus sight seeing), also consider the Nurburgring area.

4.5 hours to Nurburgring from Calais.

Btw very friendly in that part of Germany, mostly speak good English as well.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
I've never been asked in the 100k of euro mileage i've done in europe in the last few years but handing over 135 euros isn't something i'd relish after saving £2 on stickers.

Whereas 135 euro at evidently minimal risk over 100k French miles (it's just France with the specific square cm requirement, right?) is pocket change when contrasted with the added ugliness to my 500 euro helmet.

Seriously, 135 euro wouldn't even cover half the cost of the most expensive meal we (gf & I) generally have while touring.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be going for a few days, not long.

I have the reflective stickers ordered Smile

I like the idea of just finding a new place every night, and I've convinced my girlfriend it'll be fun.

How much money does this kind of thing cost? It'll probably be 3 nights, nice and short.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Touring France and General Touring Advice Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
Has anyone got any recommendations of places to go that aren't too far and preferably are down nice country roads. Also any advice on these topics would be greatly appreciated:

Its like asking how long is a piece of string ............
What things float your boat, that maybe you & her would like to see?
historical?
Military?
Scenic? .......... etc
with a little more info maybe the collective can aid your quest
BillyJ wrote:
How far are petrol stations apart?

I have known them to be the opposite side of the road from each other. Much like towns & villages here in the UK. Even the small hamlets will probably have a fuel pump hidden somewhere.
The nice French tend to space out the motorway service areas (Aires) on the toll roads evenly, around 10kms, 20kms, and 40kms apart. Though you tend to find that along the same toll road they alternate Aires (picnic area rest tops, and fuel/food rest stops)
BillyJ wrote:
International driving permits?

As previously stated .......... not required
BillyJ wrote:
Reflective sticker things for your helmet?

See above .......
BillyJ wrote:
POI's?

What Satnav you using?
Likewise depending on what floats your boat, and any info what you want to see, means you can help us to help you.
But as a starter, have a look at the pocketGPSworld site https://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=POIs there`s a recent upload of world war 1 historic sites POI`s https://www.pocketgpsworld.com/World-War-1--100th-Anniversary-6069.php
BillyJ wrote:
Biker friendly B&Bs?

Do they have to specifically Biker friendly?
There are thousands of fantastic hotels and B&B`s depending upon your budget, and TBh scrimping and staying in grotty dives while SWMBO is on the back of the bike will do nothing for your sex life while out on tour. So invest in your love life, spend a few €`s more, to minimise the earache. After all its a holiday not an endurance test
Starting with basic chain hotels , take a look at www.accorhotels.com this is the parent company for the F1, ibis, and Mercury chain.
Then you have the campanile chain.
Going up the scale take a look at the Logis hotels https://www.logishotels.com/en.html these are independent hotels, restaurants, and B&B`s scattered across the country, and my personnel favourite. The Logis website does POI`s for each hotel
BillyJ wrote:
I'll be going for a few days, not long.

BillyJ wrote:
It'll probably be 3 nights, nice and short.

So that's 1 day outbound, 1 day looking around, and 1 day inbound
But if your willing to crack on and put some decent mileage in, you could probably make it down to Reims
BillyJ wrote:
I like the idea of just finding a new place every night, and I've convinced my girlfriend it'll be fun.

It will, but with a little more info maybe the collective can aid your quest and make it a good trip for both of you
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a directions site with cost calculator (tolls & Fuel)
https://www.autoroutes.fr/en/routes.htm
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjn51 wrote:
Here's a directions site with cost calculator (tolls & Fuel)
https://www.autoroutes.fr/en/routes.htm


That's brilliant, thanks Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 07 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was me on a short trip, I'd head west along the coast, it's not bad and you can visit the seaside places, ww2 places and stay off the tolls.
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
If it was me on a short trip, I'd head west along the coast, it's not bad and you can visit the seaside places, ww2 places and stay off the tolls.

+1
allowing for stops, photos etc I suspect the OP won`t travel more than 100miles from Calais. So researching routes, attractions, accommodation etc within that radius is probably a starting point
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing I will add is - if you haven't decided already, make your life easier and use the Tunnel for the crossing.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Only thing I will add is - if you haven't decided already, make your life easier and use the Tunnel for the crossing.


As he lives where he does, i'd agree. The tunnel is a short ride.

Many people choose to use the ferry crossing as a rest time.

Personally, I dislike the ferries, customs are idots, the strapping down is petty bad and when the weather is poo it makes me feel rough as hell. Tunnel every time.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tunnel is more expensive and less luxury.

Ferry is slippy metal ramps covered in diesel and sea water and bikes falling over after not being strapped down properly.

I don't have a problem with rough seas on my stomach.

And how does London to Calais to Le Tourquet sound for the main ride?
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going but am curious, you mention getting bikes strapped down on the ferry, do you need to do this on the train too or are bikes OK on their stands? Do the ferries supply strapping?
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sabs wrote:
I'm not going but am curious, you mention getting bikes strapped down on the ferry, do you need to do this on the train too or are bikes OK on their stands? Do the ferries supply strapping?


Tunnel, no straps and you stay with the bike.

https://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/traveller-info/vehicles/motorcycles/
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sabs wrote:
I'm not going but am curious, you mention getting bikes strapped down on the ferry, do you need to do this on the train too or are bikes OK on their stands? Do the ferries supply strapping?
No strapping but there is nothing to do on there except change your clocks to km's and look at the route so just keep your eye on your bike, its a pretty smooth ride anyway. Plus bikes tend to be put with each other last time I went on I was with a group of people from the Netherlands with custom cruisers, i'm fairly sure it gave me tinnitus for about a week haha.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes are kept together as they cannot be in a carriage in front of cars so bikes are often left to the side until all cars are loaded, it depends on the loader, sometimes they will load you at the back of a carriage in the middle of a load but not often

I do strap my bike to the yellow hand rail, means i can sit down and have a nap during the crossing without having to keep an eye on the bike.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
Tunnel is more expensive and less luxury.


Off peak under £40 this month seems OK for standard ticket bike plus two people.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
BillyJ wrote:
Tunnel is more expensive and less luxury.


Off peak under £40 this month seems OK for standard ticket bike plus two people.


I usually out and back the same or next day and it's £24 ish, return.

If you book plenty in advance you can get a 7 day return for £60
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use your Tesco clubcard vouchers on Eurotunnel - £ 10 voucher = £ 30 of ticket.

https://www.tesco.com/clubcard/deals/product.aspx?R=3223
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