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PostPosted: 07:27 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Scamera van - did it get me? Reply with quote

On the way home... doing ~30 all the way, but on the last stretch I opened the throttle a bit uphill.

Saw a camera van facing me (cameras sticking out of the top - it was like the camper-van type). Looked, I was maybe doing about 37/38 on speedo - might not have been speeding at all.

As I passed it, I spun my head around to look at the rear of the van which had two squares which I imagine is where the rear cameras come out of, but they were shut, like image below

https://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/media/image/o/1/safety_cam_van_new_1.jpg

They were parked on a downhill part, only 10s of yards into the road, so I'm guessing they were trying to catch people going downhill (hence the cameras only being on the front).
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They target oncoming vehicles. As in oncoming to the camera.
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you were doing 30 as you passed it?
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but probably 36/37 on the speedo as I spotted it.

It was an obvious ploy to catch people going down the hill (set of c***. clutchless would have you breaking the speed limit on this particular bit).

I was coming up the hill.
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yous safe bruv. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Scamera van - did it get me? Reply with quote

Some of the big ones will do people out of the front too.

However, generally the bigger ones are more checking tax etc from what I've seen.

14 days of worry, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting to struggle to enjoy riding my bike as every time I return from a ride I just prang about being caught speeding. This particular road is notorious for speed camera vans, so I was doing 30 most of the way (especially through the urban bit). It then opens up and *that* is where they put the camera?

Whenever I'm doing 30mph I struggle to keep my concentration as I'm so bored and used to going faster where I feel the need to concentrate.

Safety camera my arse.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where was this? Pretty sure we live near each other, Yeadon near the airport? Don't want it getting me.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davenaylor wrote:
Where was this? Pretty sure we live near each other, Yeadon near the airport? Don't want it getting me.

They're always waiting at either side of that tunnel, another area where I never speed (except gun it through the tunnel so they rub their hands together, then slam on).

If there's one, there's bound to be others... This was near Horsforth/Hawksworth. Must be low on money.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
It then opens up and *that* is where they put the camera?

Must... resist... urg- ah, feck it.

In my opinion [police speed traps] are manifestly absurd as a protection to the public, and they are used in many counties merely as a means of extracting money from the passing traveller in a way which reminds one of the highwaymen of the Middle Ages. [...] Policemen are not stationed in the villages where there are people about who might be in danger, but are hidden in hedges or ditches by the side of the most open roads in the country.

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PostPosted: 09:22 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why I always cheer when I see a speed camera has been given the necklace treatment. Didn't take them long to get it replaced though.

Aren't most people opposed to speed cameras? Don't they work for *us*? Aren't they using our money?

Little Timmy dies because he wasn't taught how to cross the road properly, but mummy needs another reason to live, so starts a campaign to get speed cameras everywhere.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate cameras as well BUT the facts are these:

About 1,800 people a year are killed on our roads, about 350 are bikers (2012 stats).

If EVERYONE drove at 30mph EVERYWHERE, those numbers would drop dramatically. Boring as it sounds, speed does kill. That's what the cameras are for - doesn't matter where they are - they want to persuade you to go slower all the time.

Yes, they collect a lot of money in fines but how much does it cost to man those vans? To install those fixed cameras? I bet the net 'profit' isn't actually that much.

However, the deeper question could be, is it worth the boredom of doing 30mph to save a few hundred lives on an already over-crowded planet? Obviously, if a friend was one of those saved, maybe it is a good thing?

As someone with 9 points on their licence, you can guess what my answer is... Wink
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's part of a wider plot to get everybody off the road and onto the public transport network so we can be a controlled drone workforce, making less money for ourselves and more for our overlords.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 12 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

nelmo wrote:
I hate cameras as well BUT the facts are these..<snip>


Erm, nope. Keith will be along in a minute to correct me I'm sure - but the safest speed limit is the 85th percentile rule.

Strangely though, since ignoring this 'fact' the powers that be have switched the emphasis somewhat to environmental factors in deciding speed limits. Presumably at the cost of some lives. Neutral

So the ecomentalists are effectively killing people. What a strange world. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
They target oncoming vehicles. As in oncoming to the camera.


That's not true, a biker got camera'd from behind. I know of a few who've been caught like that!

BBC report and video below- beware!

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7919065.stm

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PostPosted: 12:06 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT_Man wrote:
Minty wrote:
They target oncoming vehicles. As in oncoming to the camera.


That's not true, a biker got camera'd from behind. I know of a few who've been caught like that!

BBC report and video below- beware!

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7919065.stm

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Disgusting.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about vans on bridges? They can clock your speed coming towards, then look out through the other side as you go past?

How hard is it to read a legal plate over a two lane bridge? Any takers? Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conzar wrote:
Disgusting.

Elucidate ye.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Conzar wrote:
Disgusting.

Elucidate ye.


Prison for speeding, there is a list as long as my arm for actual criminals dodging jail for pathetic reasons.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The van had no cameras facing my number plate (the ones at the back were not set up).

So either:

1) They somehow clocked my plate in the mirrors. Got an illegal plate - not by choice, came with the bike.
2) There was a camera at the back (not a speed-judging one, but a CCTV type one).
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
This is why I always cheer when I see a speed camera has been given the necklace treatment. Didn't take them long to get it replaced though.

Aren't most people opposed to speed cameras? Don't they work for *us*? Aren't they using our money?

Little Timmy dies because he wasn't taught how to cross the road properly, but mummy needs another reason to live, so starts a campaign to get speed cameras everywhere.


Someone has been lighting fixed speed cameras on fire along the A3 Kingston bypass- one that's been burned was on a bit of 3-2 lane merger, and it's actually slowly improving the traffic flow now it's gone!

Also, the latest thing i've seen (on the way back from Hastings Mayday last week) is signs saying that double white line no overtaking rules were being enforced using the traffic-cams as evidence gatherers. The traffic was catastrophic, roads at a standstill with even bikers piling up in the queue as nobody was willing to overtake the stationary or slow-moving rows of cars for fear of being nabbed later.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:14 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT_Man wrote:
Minty wrote:
They target oncoming vehicles. As in oncoming to the camera.


That's not true, a biker got camera'd from behind. I know of a few who've been caught like that!

BBC report and video below- beware!

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7919065.stm

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My arse was that 120mph.
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was 120mph.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 13 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT_Man wrote:
Minty wrote:
They target oncoming vehicles. As in oncoming to the camera.
That's not true, a biker got camera'd from behind...BBC report and video below- beware!
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7919065.stm

That's interesting as my missus has always said they must only get vehicles on the same side of the road as the (s)camera.

Also...
Over 5 years ago The Guardian wrote:
...Pc Duncan Russell from the Devon and Cornwall safety camera partnership said..."He was lucky his actions did not lead to anyone being hurt. Had he lost control of his motorcycle at that speed, the result, I'm sure, would have been fatal.

"If anyone has a high-powered motorcycle and they want to ride quickly, please go to the comparative safety of a race track. Do not do it on public roads."

Trouble is you could hit diesel travelling at or under the limit for the road, lose control, hit street furniture/other traffic and it be fatal. Speed is not the issue, it maybe a scapegoat though. Although I would concede inappropriate use of speed could be dangerous. That doesn't fit as nicely on a bumper sticker like 'speed kills' though.
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