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PostPosted: 17:46 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: RIP Simon Andrews Reply with quote

Unfortunately Simon Andrews has died in hospital following an accident on Saturday whilst competing in the NW200.
RIP Simon and sincere condolences to his family.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:03 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad sorry to hear.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a pity. Sad
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a shame. Rip.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor guy. Unsurprising really when you listen to the 'thud' in the footage.

Should they really have raced in those conditions? Bikes skidding off the start line.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad news. Thoughts go out to his family and friends.

The conditions were good enough for racing.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

the riders would have said something if they were worried i would have thought
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also had the option to race the next day if conditions were bad. Bad being standing water and/or poor visibility.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP and thoughts with his family and friends. Tragic, but not uncommon in road racing.


The conditions were not too bad, but we don't know what happened yet... They're still investigating.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/27478727


Only footage I've seen was the bike and Simon sliding down the road, and haven't seen or heard anyone mention any other footage capturing the cause. Looked like he might have been KO before impact with the kerb though.

To blame it on conditions would be premature and at this stage mere speculation. It may turn out that conditions were a factor, or the cause, but can't say for sure yet.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you start questioning conditions and other factors you might aswell blame the kerbing which is why we'll probably see a petition for 'road racing to be banned' or internet articles with headlines such as "is road racing too dangerous" claiming the bikes are too fast now days etc etc it could snowball if people start raising concerns that have always been there it just always takes a fatality for people to use as a tool to enforce the point while people in the racing world are upset about whats happened.

just my Penny Coin worth anyway, it seems to happen every time thats all.

i will bet there will be something similar in MCN this week
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP, Died doing what he loved.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP.

Seen them race in far worse conditions so doubt it was a factor.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bEN_ wrote:
if you start questioning conditions and other factors you might aswell blame the kerbing which is why we'll probably see a petition for 'road racing to be banned' or internet articles with headlines such as "is road racing too dangerous" claiming the bikes are too fast now days etc etc it could snowball if people start raising concerns that have always been there it just always takes a fatality for people to use as a tool to enforce the point while people in the racing world are upset about whats happened.

just my Penny Coin worth anyway, it seems to happen every time thats all.

i will bet there will be something similar in MCN this week



Exactly what I said in the other thread.

Road racing is (probably) much safer now than ever before, due to progressive improvements of rider protection, trackside protection and soft barriers, advancement of medical care (trackside, helicopter transport and critical care in hospital) etc.

The power and speed of the bikes isn't increasing over the recent years as much as it has in the past... its nearing the limit. Whereas other technologies are still improving and in some cases not yet implemented (such as rider airbags). So I think there are ways to make it safer still without sterilising the sport, and hopefully we'll continue to see fewer fatalities each year in the road racing events.


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RIP Si.

A sad but not uncommon occurrence in road racing.

But hopefully it won't give much ammo to the critics or lead to road racings demise... The riders are under no illusions that every time they set off down the streets there is a high chance it could be the last time.

It's not unnecessarily dangerous to spectators, and nobody is forced to race, attend, or watch on tv/follow in the news, so my view is road racing should continue, as it has done for a long time.

Hopefully rider protection will see a decrease in these sad events, but I hope the powers that be don't interfere with the racing.

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PostPosted: 21:28 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP.

Shit happens. Sad
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is going to sound bang out of order, but did anyone else have a feeling about this time over his other accidents?
Just felt uneasy and sick ever since hearing about it.

On his day a very fast and talented rider, who had overcome so much.
And from what we've seen and what people have said, one of the nicest characters in racing and life in general. Didn't appear to have any ego or chips on his shoulders.

Very sad.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

R.I.P .Such a likeable guy will be missed Sad

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PostPosted: 22:17 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post a few hours later... odd.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
This is going to sound bang out of order, but did anyone else have a feeling about this time over his other accidents?
Just felt uneasy and sick ever since hearing about it.



I don't think you're out of order.

When the initial story broke, plenty of people were questioning his continued involvement in the sport, even though the live coverage didn't mention anything about his injuries, serious or otherwise.

Motorcycle racers in general and roadracers in particular, are made of different stuff; they aren't unintelligent people and they know how many variables are involved, but they keep coming back, because it's what they want.

More than that, they do it in the first place, which makes them a cut above most of us to begin with.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was acknowledged at the start of the final NW200 highlights programme on BBC NI tonight, and stated the programme had already been filmed and edited before the news was announced.

Think they could have found a photo of him and put it at the end of the credits with a simple "Simon Andrews, 14 August 1984 – 19 May 2014" or something, surely that wouldn't have been unreasonable to manage in the several hours before airing.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 19 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:


Think they could have found a photo of him and put it at the end of the credits with a simple "Simon Andrews, 14 August 1984 – 19 May 2014" or something, surely that wouldn't have been unreasonable to manage in the several hours before airing.


Agreed. Thumbs Up

It's not much to ask, as you say and would have taken virtually no effort.
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 20 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
This is going to sound bang out of order, but did anyone else have a feeling about this time over his other accidents?
Just felt uneasy and sick ever since hearing about it.

On his day a very fast and talented rider, who had overcome so much.
And from what we've seen and what people have said, one of the nicest characters in racing and life in general. Didn't appear to have any ego or chips on his shoulders.

Very sad.


Not at all - he did get banged up and often looked to me like he was riding a short circuit, on the road, if that makes sense.

Big shame, he's a local bloke and came to a few of the local bike nights. Very normal, likeable, funny man. He will be missed.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 20 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad R.I.Paradise.

Saw the footage, it looks like his helmet came off in the slow motion. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 20 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Pigeon wrote:
This is going to sound bang out of order, but did anyone else have a feeling about this time over his other accidents?
Just felt uneasy and sick ever since hearing about it.

On his day a very fast and talented rider, who had overcome so much.
And from what we've seen and what people have said, one of the nicest characters in racing and life in general. Didn't appear to have any ego or chips on his shoulders.

Very sad.


Not at all - he did get banged up and often looked to me like he was riding a short circuit, on the road, if that makes sense.

Big shame, he's a local bloke and came to a few of the local bike nights. Very normal, likeable, funny man. He will be missed.


There's a video of him riding at the TT I think. Everyone else comes round the corner (fairly fast corner) and stays about a metre and a half. You then hear the spectator saying something like 'move back, Andrews is coming' then Si comes flying round the corner and is only centimeters from the kerb.

I didn't follow him a lot but what I saw of him he was a nice chap. This echoed what my friend told me about him who knew him from Evesham. RIP Simon.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 20 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:
RIP and thoughts with his family and friends. Tragic, but not uncommon in road racing.


The conditions were not too bad, but we don't know what happened yet... They're still investigating.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/27478727


Only footage I've seen was the bike and Simon sliding down the road, and haven't seen or heard anyone mention any other footage capturing the cause. Looked like he might have been KO before impact with the kerb though.

To blame it on conditions would be premature and at this stage mere speculation. It may turn out that conditions were a factor, or the cause, but can't say for sure yet.


Why does their always have to be a blame?

No one held a gun to their heads, they all make the choice to go. The Superbike race was straight after in similar conditions......it was no slower.
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