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Radis
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Anyone recommend some decent CCTV? Reply with quote

I bought a brand new 14 plate Speed Triple 1050 from Jack Lilleys in Ashford (who were amazingly good btw, recommend them!) 2 weeks ago on Saturday. I have put just over 500 miles on the wonderful bike and have been polishing and caressing the beauty ever since I got it.

Last night at 2am I got woken up by the alarm going off, grabbed the keys and ran outside in the torrential rain to see what had happened - saw nothing untoward with the bike and no one around so just rearmed the alarm and went back to bed thinking about how much a commute to work in the rain is going to suck and regretting not putting the cover on the bike so I would have a wet arse.

When I got up to go to work this morning I realised the bike had its steering lock broken and the ignition barrel had been pried out.

No CCTV, no witnesses and the police say that because of the rain they won't even look for forensics.

I have managed to get the bike into my garden and have resecured all the chains (untouched) but I am going to have to get the bike recovered to get fixed up AND miss out on at least a days wage to sort this shit out. So fucking angry.

While the bike is all secured physically I was going to get some CCTV from Costco today so I can get the scum on camera when they inevitably come back - does anyone have any recommendations for good CCTV systems that a useless bloke can fit easily?

They didn't touch the wifes Sprint GT.....


I'm currently thinking bout one of these:
https://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_10,cos_10.7,cos_1.9.1/145541

https://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_10,cos_10.7,cos_1.9.1/139539
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:54 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a PC/laptop you can pick up a IP CCTV camera for about £50 and record on the PC.

I use Edimax ones in the shop, come with 16 channel recording software and can either plug straight into your broadband router, or you can get a wireless one, which once done, only needs power as it will connect to your wifi.

E-bay have plenty there, there are many which you could use, small and good quality.
They have some which are waterproof, so can go outside, also some with low light/night vision as standard (IR LEDs).

Cheaper option than the costco stuff, plus recording straight to the PC makes it easy to review the footage.

Just my 2p worth.

Oh, BTW, the newer ones can be set to be viewed by your phone using a dedicated app if you have a decent 3/4G signal, so you cna check on it from work if you are not riding.

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PostPosted: 09:04 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maplin do a system off the shelf and often have offers.

Myself, i bought a 16 channel dvr via ebay, put in a 500gb drive and used various different cameras to suit, dome ones by the external doors, pod mounted ones on the sheds and a couple of little chinese ones in windows pointing out.

The whole thing cost me less than £200 and there are 7 cameras.

There is a distinct lack of crime around here but having lived in Bristol most of my life, bolting down everything and alarming/cctv everything is habit.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if they decided not to use a hoodie and you got the clearest, best possible picture of them square on from all angles, what will you do? The police still won't care. Even if they are recognised it's going to be by other thieves and low life who won't 'snitch'.

Save your money, get an Almax chain and a ground anchor.
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Radis
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheCatSatOnTheMat wrote:
Even if they decided not to use a hoodie and you got the clearest, best possible picture of them square on from all angles, what will you do? The police still won't care. Even if they are recognised it's going to be by other thieves and low life who won't 'snitch'.

Save your money, get an Almax chain and a ground anchor.


Chances are they live near me and I will recognise them.... https://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/picture/xx7thxSkullxx/curbstomp.jpg

I already have good chains but the bikes currently have to be kept on the street. I will spend some time and money widening the gate to my back garden so I can fit both bikes in as that is the best way to improve immediate security but I will probably try and do as Marm did and get the bits off ebay.

I have got the bike recovered to Jack Lilleys now but it is looking like either I pay to get a new ignition barrel and have to deal with two keys for around £350 or I get all the barrels changed and have a new set of keys issued for over £500... Fucking expensive!
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speedy
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCTV is more of a deterrent its just one more thing to put off, as these seemed to be opportunistic thieves
granted locking your bike to something will be better but at least if there is obviously a camera pointed at it, it may stop a few from even bothering
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brand new 1050 triple parked on the street...

You crazy.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have CCTV set up all around my house and its been great as a deterrent, checking before I open the door at night, checking around the house at night and caught the neighbour dumping rubbish in my garden Laughing but if its to catch the buggers faces on camera or red handed I think it would fail as most thieves will come hooded up or something on there face plus you'd need the camera either close up (not good as can be messed with) or high quality to get a good face pic at night and you'd need sensors to alert you when they're there.

Better to spend your cash on more security like chains, ground anchors, shed etc and maybe set up a good security light above where you leave your bike.

Hope you catch them or they don't come back
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Brand new 1050 triple parked on the street...

You crazy.


Without a Cover on it Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're unlikely to get a system good enough to recognise most thieves.

It is however useful to see what's going on remotely when you're not there, don't want to get out of bed and so on.
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Northern Monkey
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 22 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feck me, Stripple with no security.

My bike is 1000x less stealable than a stripple, but I still lock it with a big bar through the frame, and an almax 16mm through a ground anchor.

It's also inside a brick garage
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Radis
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was security - It had a Almax chain to the lampost and a Krall lock and chain around the front wheel to the Sprint GT next to it. I just couldn't be bothered to put the cover on as I got back home late at night. None of the locks were touched as far as I can tell so it was either wanton destruction because I have something nice or they were trying to disable it to have it away in a van later.

I spent yesterday modifying my back garden gate so I can get both bikes inside the back garden where I will sink a ground anchor this weekend....

Still thinking about CCTV as an added extra deterrent/remote viewing when away from home.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheCatSatOnTheMat wrote:
Even if they decided not to use a hoodie and you got the clearest, best possible picture of them square on from all angles, what will you do? The police still won't care. Even if they are recognised it's going to be by other thieves and low life who won't 'snitch'.

Save your money, get an Almax chain and a ground anchor.

I'd go with this. CCTV in itself firstly won't stop them nicking it which is what i'd be more concerned about. IF it helped you get it back, which I expect is a big if as they'll likely be hoodied up, by that time it will probably be in bits/damaged/a problem for insure and all the additional costs that would incur.

Get a good chain, good ground anchor and if at all possible get it off the road Shocked You could look into trackers but again its very hit and miss as to how much use they actually are, particularly anything that doesn't cost a fortune in itself. Something that could alert you to the bike being moved via mobile alerts or similar could be at least useful so you know if its being agitated and can't hear the alarm.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cover with rape alarms attached? It'll at least give you some notice if you're within earshot, maybe keep the scrotes off.

On the CCTV side of things, would a simple trail cam work?
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure where you could get some CCTV Equipment...
That "fatpies" guy may have an idea tho. Whistle
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCTV will only video them robbing it. It won't stop them actually robbing it.

Get loud as fuck disc alarms, a massive chain, COVER IT UP, and don't leave it on the street.

I don't even leave my shitty YBR out on the street and I don't live in a particularly bad area. I even had a ramp made to get it in and out of my garden (we're below the level of the street and have steps that go down to an alley between us and next door - terraced housing) and I lock it up with a 16mm Pragmasis chain. Usually use a disc lock but I've lent it my brother as at the moment his bike is uninsured on the driveway (locked to a ground anchor, mind, but still) and he's not long had a bike robbed so he needs it more than me Laughing

I've managed to gouge the fuck out of my exhaust on the wall getting it through our narrow back gate (it's about 3 inches wider than the bars on the YBR and it's a cunt of an angle as well) but I'd rather replace an exhaust than a whole bike.

And I'm only 3rd party anyway but that's not the point Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

get an almax or pramasis chain and get a tracker from www.tracker.co.uk

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PostPosted: 20:42 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radis wrote:
I just couldn't be bothered


There lies your problem. I'm currently not bothered as my SV has no keys, I also have lost the key to my lock so it sits there propped up against a wall. However, losing that isn't exactly near 10k of dosh.

If I could be bothered, I'd find the key for the lock, but the cost of my time searching for the keys outweighs that of the bike. You however have bought a spanking new bike and got it fucked hard. Price of being lazy my friend.

However, cover, rape alarms, almax and cyclone should stop them attempting again. On the street though, fuck me. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 20:46 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As before with security threads. I recommend the Autonomous Backyard Defender: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcxg_QuHyYE
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is alright for £115..

Might be a chink as well but its bloody good quality, I've got the same one.

Only problem having CCTV is like it's been said above, unless you turn the "motion sensor alarms" on on the CCTV so you can get to the bike before someone else does they're really not worth it.

I had the next door neighbours try rob my ped a few years back, crystal clear on camera too.. Fuzz wouldn't do anything despite it showing his face, clothing and him coming out of next door because it couldn't see the logo on his socks Rolling Eyes

Turn the sensor on and invest in a heavy baseball bat.[/url]
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swann stuff from Maplin mate, I can recommend that. Installed 4 cameras about the place two years ago and still working fine with no faults. Simple to install and setup.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have bought myself one of these.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251400456816?var=550323442978&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a swan system at home, plug and play, just run the wires and mount the cameras. It's got an iphone app and a free server for web access.

Easy to use system. Excellent quality video and would certainly be useful to the police if something happens.

The night vision camera presence pushes thieve elsewhere. You can also hook up a mic to record sound at the front door for example and the system will email you if it 'sees' something move.

Definitely a good deterrent if nothing else
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