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itswoody
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: ONE COMMUTER TO RULE THEM ALL Reply with quote

I have spent countless hours searching online for the answer to this question: what is the perfect commuter bike? And more to the point, does it even exist at this point in time?

Forum posts on this topic usually end up enquiring to the specifics of the commute in question i.e. motorway / city / B roads etc and then try to recommend a bike on that basis but I would argue the perfect commuter motorcycle should perform in all these situations and therefore there should be ONE COMMUTER TO RULE THEM ALL.

So with that in mind I've drawn up a list of my requirements for the perfect commuter:

• Excellent fuel economy and large capacity fuel tank for fewer refuels.
• Compact width, upright riding position and light handling for filtering.
• Good wind protection for high speed / all weather travel.
• Comfortable seat.
• ABS brakes.
• Decent headlights.
• Generously timed service intervals.
• Infrequent cleaning required / quality parts that will standup to all weather use.
• Fun factor.

For me the answer has got to be something like a Yamaha MT-07 with tall screen, bigger tank and fairing or maybe a Triumph Tiger 800 with fairing (think watered down 1050 Sport?). Honda NC750X on the face of it meets the bill but I think the low rev ceiling kills the fun factor.

Or maybe a compact sports tourer (think Ninja 300, CBR500R or Kwak ER-6F) could work if it was setup with higher bars and a taller screen?

Either way I'm really struggling to find something that truly meets the above requirements. Is there a bike I've missed that delivers on the above?

EDIT

- I would have put low maintenance on the list but I figure with a Scottoiler it's kind of irrelevant whether the bike has chain / belt / shaft.
- Added infrequent cleaning / quality parts for all weather riding.


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PostPosted: 15:25 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR800 VTec

there a bit on the heavy side and getting the vtec serviced is quite expensive but other than that it ticks all those boxes
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Re: ONE COMMUTER TO RULE THEM ALL Reply with quote

itswoody wrote:
...what is the perfect commuter bike? ...


I tried to think about this once. Gave me a headache so just picked the one criteria I most want as my commutes are faily short anyway, 'Fun Factor'.

Now I'm on the hunt for a CBR600RR Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be going with a GSXR 750 from the last few years.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

- not have to be cleaned after every ride to stop it becoming a rust bucket.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember in Athens the preference was for a tall bike.
This allows good views ahead to spot gaps in traffic.
Also fairly narrow profile.
Able to maneuver required to change lanes. That's going to front of car/bus, turning 90 degrees across the front of it, then 90 degrees back and continue forward and repeat.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda NC700

80+ mpg and enough power to get out of trouble
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think my old 600F4i was a great commuter bike once given a double bubble.

Also not exactly a 'bike' but the Honda NC700-D scooter/bike hybrid was totally awesome for commuting. Dead comfy, massive screen, nippy and not too bad looking either.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMCpro wrote:
Honda NC700

80+ mpg and enough power to get out of trouble


but the 750 version, for a bit more power
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked my later model fazer 600 for commuting.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's different kinds of commutes.

Commuting in central London on a VFR is not pleasant, IMO. Seating position is too far forward to be comfy holding onto clutch at traffic lights, is too wide to filter for many gaps, is too heavy to chuck around from side to side very quickly.

Your machine spec sounds more like a workhorse tourer, like a pan european or something. Look at bikes used by police etc.

Personally, if I had a longer commute that still ended in a congested city centre, I'd probably go with a T-max or similar maxi-scooter.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Versys ticks all those boxes.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:37 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
DMCpro wrote:
Honda NC700

80+ mpg and enough power to get out of trouble


but the 750 version, for a bit more power


Got to agree, Honda have got this one nailed (for a reasonable length commute).

A scooter for a short commute.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed Triple Thumbs Up


The only bits missing really is the wind protection (but I don't care too much about that) and the tank range isn't amazing if you are having fun around 130 miles...

For London riding mixed with motorways and weekend jaunts I have yet to ride anything I prefer.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Northern Monkey wrote:


but the 750 version, for a bit more power


Got to agree, Honda have got this one nailed (for a reasonable length commute).

A scooter for a short commute.


Additionally the fake tank storage on the NC7[0|5]0 means you don't need to have a top box or wear a backpack. Mine holds my (substantial) lunch, waterproofs, some tools, extra gloves, spare jeans..
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Additionally the fake tank storage on the NC7[0|5]0 means you don't need to have a top box or wear a backpack. Mine holds my (substantial) lunch, waterproofs, some tools, extra gloves, spare jeans..


Out of interest did you get the DCT or manual model?
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

itswoody wrote:
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Additionally the fake tank storage on the NC7[0|5]0 means you don't need to have a top box or wear a backpack. Mine holds my (substantial) lunch, waterproofs, some tools, extra gloves, spare jeans..


Out of interest did you get the DCT or manual model?


I went for the manual. I don't have any issues with riding it town and although the bike weighs quite a bit, it's easy to flick about and you don't really feel the weight (unless you have to push it Wink ) - I've hit the limiter a few times, but the 750 (I have a 700) is supposed to make it a little less likely - of course that depends on the rider.

I've only ridden the DCT once and I didn't really like it. I was joining a roundabout leaning over, and the bike decided that was the best time to change gear. Back end kicked out. Easy enough to recover from but I'd rather be in charge of changing gear.

Others swear by it.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had he chance to ride 1 yet but I'd have a Street triple, looks beautiful, comfy riding position, twin headlamps so I'd guess they have decent lights, would tick all my boxes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the above are clearly not commuter bikes, unless commuting has become something vastly different now to what it was.

VFR800 for commuting? What kind of ridiculous fucking nonsense is that? Shocked

I think I'll get RC166 out and commute to work on that on Monday Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I commute on either a 24 year old zzr 1100 or a 2 year old 1198.
My commute is 170 miles each way. I go one way on a Sunday evening, return on Friday.
Occasionally I don't get home at a weekend, so a bike gives me something to do while I'm there!
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ideal commuter for me has two wheels.

If the commute is a long one I find an engine is really helpful.

The rest is all open to taste, budget and opinion.

I’ve commuted on all of my bikes and the CBF1000 is by far and away the most accomplished. But then my commute mixes country lanes, motorway and central London on a 60 mile roundtrip. I may think differently for a different journey.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 23 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you want a new bike (with loads of depreciation) AND good fuel economy?

You could just get an older bike with not quite so good fuel economy and still be better off?
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turbo busa...

Go on a 3 hour ride and you'll still be there in about 20 minutes from the time you set off Wink
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