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Drax
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Halvarssons Reply with quote

I keep seeing this stuff in the Moto Legends catalogue - courtesy of MCN.

It looks really good quality stuff. It's not the cheapest but then again I believe that you get what you pay for.

Has anyone got /used any of their gear?

Is it as good as it looks?

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PostPosted: 20:44 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got their gloves. Pretty good, had them for 5 years, all year round waterproof
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried out one of their jackets in about 2005 at a dealership I worked at back then - we started to stock it. It had a material/system called "Outlast" or some such - supposedly using tech developed by astronauts to regulate temp. Ok, this is how I remember it, so I might be wrong Laughing

It used little beads of a paraffin-based substance, which changed their state according to temperature, so you'd be cool when it's warm, warm when it's cold. I'm too damn lazy, so I'll let you look it up Rolling Eyes

I took an FZ1, unfaired, out for a spin on a freezing cold day. I was told to just wear a thin t-shirt under the jacket. And by eck, I didn't freeze. The trick was to get used to being just a little cooler than you might normally be with all equivalent kit on. Once you accepted that, it was fine. I think I have since seen Outlast used by other manufacturers.

They also used some protective layer inside some of the jackets, looked like some kind of rough matting, but very abrasion resistant, although quite heavy.

Halvarssons stuff was expensive, but good quality.


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PostPosted: 21:29 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Halvarssons Optimal jacket, Lizard trousers and two pairs of gloves. Winter gloves are generally waterproof, unless there's a serious downpour.

The jacket and trousers are fantastic. They might be expensive (luckily I bought mine from the dealer where I bought my bike, so I've saved a very fair amount from the ticket price) but they keep me warm and dry regardless of how heavy the rain is.

Pricey, but very good gear.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 24 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a pair of Halvarssons Dino gloves. The stitching on one of the fingers burst after a year of light use - perhaps 5k miles.

I didn't wear them that often because they were a bit uncomfortable, bunching up where my palms meet my fingers, pinching my skin a bit, especially when rolling on the throttle.

The gloves looked good. But the burst stitching would make me very wary of buying them again - they weren't particularly cheap.

I'll add that the thumbs were much too long, but the fingers slightly too short. I compromised in favour of slightly short fingers instead of ridiculously long thumbs, since the left thumb is important for indicating. That meant the stitching was under a little bit of strain when in a gripping position - but not enough to warrant a whole finger bursting. It may be related to kangaroo leather stitching not holding up under sweat as reported here by TC:

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Kangaroo is probably the least known of the hides used although they are being used more regularly in very hot climates. The hides are supple, light and quite tough, but it has been found that they can react with sweat particularly when worn by riders who perspire freely. If this were the case then you would probably be well advised to look elsewhere as you may find your suit literally coming apart at the seams.

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PostPosted: 07:46 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrkel wrote:
I had a pair of Halvarssons Dino gloves. The stitching on one of the fingers burst after a year of light use - perhaps 5k miles.



The gloves looked good. But the burst stitching would make me very wary of buying them again - they weren't particularly cheap.

....the stitching was under a little bit of strain when in a gripping position - but not enough to warrant a whole finger bursting. It may be related to kangaroo leather stitching not holding up under sweat as reported here by TC:

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Kangaroo is probably the least known of the hides used although they are being used more regularly in very hot climates. The hides are supple, light and quite tough, but it has been found that they can react with sweat particularly when worn by riders who perspire freely. If this were the case then you would probably be well advised to look elsewhere as you may find your suit literally coming apart at the seams.

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Just bear in mind that you will get this occasionally with EVERY make. I've seen Astars gloves with burst stitching, and yet I think most people would agree that their quality is generally pretty good. They make thousands of pairs of each model, once in a while the stitching/finishing won't be perfect on a pair.
Can't comment on the problems with kangaroo leather though, don't know.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a halvarssons jacket, don't know about all the bullshit above but if I don't wear several layers underneath I still get cold in the winter.

Is meant to be waterproof but isn't. Light to moderate you're fine because the material is heavy enough to wick it before it hits your inners, but heavy rain, no chance, you come away soaking.

It has the Dryway+ material on the outside, and the Outlast inner thermal lining. Probably just needs a treatment.

Good quality jacket though, zipper tags came off after a while (3yrs+) but no complaints.

It appears to have european sizing on the tags, says 52 whereas I'm a 42 which is apparently a direct conversion EU->UK, but seems bigger than 42? Put it this way I normally buy 44 when I buy leather jackets.

I think I bought this before Halvarssons became expensive circa 2009, because the shop I bought it from stopped stocking them for that reason.

Wow just took a look online at their prices, they do some really stylish stuff but £300+? I paid no more than £180 for the jacket.


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PostPosted: 10:31 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I've seen Astars gloves with burst stitching, and yet I think most people would agree that their quality is generally pretty good.

My experience is that on average it's not great quality - certainly for the price paid, where you'd expect much better.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought A* Andes Drystar jacket/pants in September. I only started riding in February so they aren't really "used" as such, done under 1500 miles and there's threads loose on both, gloves (of the same line) are starting to fray etc.

At 180 quid for a jacket and 150 quid for pants I'd expect them to last longer than 1500 miles. Won't be buying A* stuff again which is a shame as I quite like how the stuff looks and it seems to be reasonably warm, even with just a t-shirt and boxers on underneath.

Equally, my TCX X-Move boots were 130 quid and haven't let any water in whatsoever and are comfy. I most definitely will be buying them again once these wear out Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the leather jacket and leather/textile trousers, both with Dryway lining. Very well made, but they are not as waterproof as my previous Hein Gericke leather/textile (goretex) combo. Loads more protection and comfort though.
Waterproof for an hour or so heavy rain btw, just wont stand the down pours the HG stuff would stand.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy some Halvarrsons and ride a Husqvarna Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:58 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm!

Would seem that Hallversons /Lindstroms are a similar sort of quality to Hein Gericke.

For me that means either to tight /short or long/baggy - & doesn't fit in the right places. Sad

Thanks for all your replies.

For what it's worth - bought a pair of RST Paragon 4 Textile trousers from the BMF last week for £80 (rrp £159-00)

Long in the leg (34/36)!!!! Result!!! Very Happy

Worn them for the first time today & they are fantastic. Forgot I was wearing them. Isn't that the best kind of kit? The one that you don't think about?

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