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 Posted: 16:38 - 31 May 2014  Post subject: Honda NX400 |
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Came across this when looking for XR's. Obviously insane at 2.5k, but then I saw a new one for 3.7k.
Anyone know anything about them? It appears to be a South American model, so I imagine finding parts would be virtually impossible. Still intrigued for some reason, but how big is that front wheel? 
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| Posted: 18:54 - 31 May 2014 Post subject: Re: Honda NX400 |
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| MC wrote: | Came across this when looking for XR's. Obviously insane at 2.5k, but then I saw a new one for 3.7k. |
Friend has one, likes it.
Depends what you think you're getting for 3.7k. If you just want a new, light, smallish, reliable adventure bike that just works, what else is there? Even a CRF250L is 3.5k new, if you can find one discounted. Most of the competition is either <250cc or litre-class stuff costing well over 10 grand. The NX400s apparently sell by the millions in South America (i.e. it's proven in variable terrain). Friend says he finds it a bit cramped though. I wouldn't mind one.
Edit: Friend just did a biggish trip riding across the UK, heavily laden with camping gear, then did a day full of trail riding, then rode back. Says its great fun on A and B roads, but doesn't like motorways as cruises happily at 60mph and not much more. Needs luggage carrying capacity.
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That's the thing, I was toying with the idea of getting a CRF250M before (for around 3.5k), if the NX400 came in a supermoto ver. I probably would buy it
Think it's a bit of a risk, not being an official UK model, not knowing what the resale values like etc.
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I've been eying that up for a while, it's been for sale for months now, gradually decreasing in price.
I like the look of it, a slightly more road biased XR4 but with a 'leccy start and a slightly supermoto-ey style.
| Quote: | You might as well have a decent 125 for similar performance and better fuel economy. |
What about the torque of the 400? My Varadero 125 goes faster than my 250, but no way would I give her up for a touch more top-end. A varadero 125 struggles lifting in first, mine will pull third, 4th if on reserve, less weight, and stood up.
My bikes a grey import, yes, it's hard to get bits for, but not impossible, and if you look around you don't have to pay dealership prices.
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Wait for CRF300M to be announced then? |
I hate to say it but the CRF L is a boring line of bikes, heavyier and less powerful than mine. And the TTR is meant to be under-powered and overweight. I think If you are going for a supermoto style, go whole hog and get a big thumper, if you don't need it for dirt use. they all get roughly the same MPG, from about 50 to 70. Less however on the exotic comp bikes, I.e. husaberg, KTM EXC range.
The BMW 650 Funduro is meant to be great fun, a mate at work had one, claimed 60MPG and reckoned he could out corner most sports-bikes. reliable too. Just something else to think about.
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| Posted: 22:43 - 31 May 2014 Post subject: |
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Near enough 3 grand I think. I don't think it's worth that much really.
You could get an XR 400, convert and modify it to be similar for less. But have better suspension, I guess.
Ahh, a shorty. 
I'll never know the plights of little legs, however I know the downfalls of long legs very well. There's lots to do to lower a bike, but not a lot to make it bigger. Usually, with short legs, you just have to plan stops and get ready to slide across the saddle to get a leg down.
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| Fladdem wrote: | I hate to say it but the CRF L is a boring line of bikes, heavyier and less powerful than mine. |
This conversation, or one very much like it, has been thrashed out a hundred times on BCF.- A BCFer asserts that Bike A is boring as hell, usually because the bike is seen as slow/heavy/ugly.
- Somebody rational points out that perceptions of what constitutes boring vary from person to person.
- Another comments that Bike A is very popular, despite it supposedly being boring.
- The original poster makes the argument that being popular doesn't mean good, possibly resorting to a comparison with McDonald's, which is the bike discussion equivalent of Godwin's Law.
- A third commenter remarks that the OP's choice of bikes is boring by some standards (e.g. riding a TTR250 instead of a SVX550).
And so it goes round, pointlessly.
Let's just all accept that we have different tastes. However, just to show you how far your own tastes are from those of the market, note the chart below. In particular (and in the spirit of point 3 above) note the final facet of the chart showing the top seller in the Trail/Enduro category. Since the launch of the CRF250L in August 2012 it has occupied that spot for all but two months.
https://i.imgur.com/qkG9c2Z.png
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| Fladdem wrote: | Near enough 3 grand I think. I don't think it's worth that much really.
You could get an XR 400, convert and modify it to be similar for less. But have better suspension, I guess.
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Average height but only 30" leg  Tip toes on my XR so realistically 32-33 is my maximum, depending on the seat, suspension compression etc. Its OK sliding across, but its the unplanned stops, when you put your foot down in a dip then nearly fall over that I'm worried about
Kick starts don't appeal to me, I'm still hoping to find an imported XR motard at some point. Speaking of imports if you import a new bike doesn't it still have to meet emission laws etc? Wonder how the NX400 does and why people wanting a DRZ400SM don't import a new one (given the cost of used)?
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Obviously bikes are subjective. Not aiming this at anyone, but the weight argument gets a bit annoying, as all new bikes are heavy. Look at this list, CRF's at No. 2 with 145kg 
With power I think there's more of an argument, sure there's more emissions stuff now, but I can't help feeling bikes are too often made to fit into a manufacturers range. I was looking at videos of the 250 Hornet, 40bhp, high revving actually looks like a lot of fun. What's the CBR250, 26bhp?
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Do you want to play in the mud at all?
I think you may struggle with most if you do. If not, then I can't see the road causing much trouble. It's also not just the seat height, but the width, most trail bikes have a relatively skinny seat, so your legs could be closer together, thus not having to bend out and round before down. the XR125, I think has a fairly wide seat for a dirt oriented bike.
| Quote: | Nice point about the weight of modern bikes. The "it's too heavy!" gambit is one part of the typical "you can't possibly have fun on that" |
Yes, but look at the Varadero 125, has amazing potential for fun, but too heavy, not enough power, dare I say makes it a little bit boring? It pretends it can off-road, but no torque really, so need to rev it, but then no power so encounter the same problem, and due to the weight she feels a bit sluggish.
Now a lazy 400cc single in that chassis, there's potential. And looking at NX400's it is almost exactly what I would like, just minus the fairing. But like you say, it's what I would like, not necessarily what everyone else would.
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| Fladdem wrote: | Do you want to play in the mud at all?
I think you may struggle with most if you do. If not, then I can't see the road causing much trouble. It's also not just the seat height, but the width, most trail bikes have a relatively skinny seat, so your legs could be closer together, thus not having to bend out and round before down. the XR125, I think has a fairly wide seat for a dirt oriented bike.
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No, not interested in getting muddy The XR125 does have a wide seat, still its one of the lower dirt bikes available (think only the DR125SM is as low). I know it probably seems silly having a dirt bike purely for road use, but its good being up high around town, you can fly over speed humps and they're good for stuff like going up kerbs.
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It sounds rational to me. Although maybe some skinnier bars for commuting/filtering purpose.
I love my dirt bike on the road. She's not fast enough for me to lose my licence for speeding But I may lose it for spending too much time on the back wheel. 
I find the closer you get to pure dirt bikes, the less you can jump speed bumps. I have to hit them FAST if I want air, otherwise the suspension just absorbs it, my mates EXC125 is the same. My mt50 just needed a little bounce before and off you go.
I think with road tyres a dirt bike is the ideal choice. But people may argue. In fact I think the ideal bikes are probably things like the V-Strom, comfy, frugal, nippy enough, faired, tall seat, wide-ish bars, space for luggage, wide service intervals, twin engine, less vibey and still not really fast enough to lose your licence.
But I'm not a big fan of fairing, I always promised myself, If I crashed the Varadero and broke the fairing, it would get a supermoto style mudguard and headlight stuck on it. I think it looks awesome without fairing, looks like the Duke but cooler.
I'm not very mature, I can't pick my times wisely when misbehaving. I reckon If my bike could do 110mph, I would be doing 110 MPH. Really I need a bike that doesn't encourage lunacy.
Supermotos and the like, I think encourage idiocy on the road. I gave my TTR to my uncle for a week to ride, he didn't want to give it back. He said he's never had any inclination to ride offroad before, but after 2 commutes, he'd found a green lane and went down it. He also claimed to have not wheelied a bike purposely since 1996, he purposely did mine. He said he wanted to see whether it could do so easily, he said he liked the engine. That was when it was standard.
If I could, I would have a fleet of bikes, but then I wouldn't be able to use them all, I'd just have some sat unused because I'd have to pick which one I wanted that day.
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This is my approach. I know my own weakness - if the bike made it easy to cruise at well over the ton, I know that's what I'd be doing. Then eventually my license would be gone.
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