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PostPosted: 22:15 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Bee's nest in roof eaves. Reply with quote

I've noticed i've got what looks like a bee's nest in the roof eaves area above my bathroom window. They are going into the area between the brickwork and the fascia boards, so i presume they are in this cavity area, and not actually in the loft space.

What can i do to remove the nest, remove the bee's or encourage them to leave? I've thought about just going up with a silicone gun and sealing the gap, to stop them getting in, but ideally i want to get rid of them?

Can i go up on a ladder with a can of wasp killer spray or is this a recipe for a trip to A&E? Should i try and get them out alive, or would it be better to smoke them out or attack with a blow torch?

I'm tempted to call a pest control company out, but don't want to pay loads if there is something i can do myself without incurring a hospital visit for 100 bee stings?
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

leave them bee...
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely bees not wasps? What kinda bees?

You can probably get a beekeeper to come and remove the hive and it possibly won't even cost anything...

If its a wasp nest on the other hand... get some wasp killer powder and get it on any fuckers you can see... they'll take it back into the nest and kill from the inside.

Or grab an extension arm, a wasp killer spray and gaffer tape the spray down then hold it aimed and firing at the entrance.


Don't kill the bees though, they're already disappearing and we NEED them. A beekeeper would be happy for another hive.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:41 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Had a big wasps nest in the loft a few years ago. Just didn't go into the loft until they decided to leave (September-ish). Didn't have any problems with them (one wasp in the bathroom, directly under the loft).

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PostPosted: 23:54 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:
Definitely bees not wasps? What kinda bees?

You can probably get a beekeeper to come and remove the hive and it possibly won't even cost anything...

If its a wasp nest on the other hand... get some wasp killer powder and get it on any fuckers you can see... they'll take it back into the nest and kill from the inside.

Or grab an extension arm, a wasp killer spray and gaffer tape the spray down then hold it aimed and firing at the entrance.


Don't kill the bees though, they're already disappearing and we NEED them. A beekeeper would be happy for another hive.


This.

Wasps can fuck off, get a pest controller in and have them exterminated.

Bees are an entirely different thing, they need and deserve proper protection and removal.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

When they have gone do NOT remove the nest leave it there. They are territorial so some more come along and they see there's a nest already there they wont stay.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bbka.org.uk/help/do_you_have_a_swarm.php

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PostPosted: 07:27 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bbka.org.uk/help/find_a_swarm_coordinator.php

If they're not causing any actual problem I'd leave them where they are, but I can see how they might be a nuisance so close to a window. There's a small nest of honey bees in my garden this year, I was quite pleased to see them.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a nest of honey bees right beneath my bedroom window one summer. You can't do anything with them apart from let them bee (lol, I like that one).

I did think they were wasps at first but I'm sure you've investigated, wasp spray, lots of it and annihilate those twunts
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

Had a big wasps nest in the loft a few years ago. Just didn't go into the loft until they decided to leave (September-ish). Didn't have any problems with them (one wasp in the bathroom, directly under the loft).

All the best

Keith


Holy shit, is that a Lego technic digger???

Also that wasp nest is huge, burn the house down and claim off insurance.

If the bees aren't coming into the house then leave them to it as bees are super important to the ecology of the local area. Or contact local bee keepers and get some advice from them.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

Had a big wasps nest in the loft a few years ago. Just didn't go into the loft until they decided to leave (September-ish). Didn't have any problems with them (one wasp in the bathroom, directly under the loft).

All the best

Keith


Mother of god. When you say you didn't do anything, is that because no exterminator would take on the job and they killed and ate the priest you hired to exorcise them?
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've kept bees for a couple of years. If it definitely is a honey bee swarm that's taken up residence then your local BBKA officer should have the numbers of members locally who are nominated to collect swarms that aren't wanted. (Have a look at the BBKA webby). You may well find though, that if its difficult to get out they may not be able to help much.


If its wasps (And you'll probably notice more of a round paper-like nest if it is), then pest control is best bet - wasps can get very unpleasant when disturbed. Otherwise wait til the winter when they are refusing to come out because its cold, bung in a wasp killer or something, and run like hell. (I can't condone this!!)

Otherwise, there are lots of other types of bee - most of which are harmless, although they don't produce anything useful, so the BBKA wont be interested in taking them away for you.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a stunned/dead one on the floor last night. They are definitely big chunky Bee's, not wasps or hornets. They are about the size of bumble bee's but the stripes on the body are not very bright yellow, more of a beige colour in fact.

I'm happy to contact the local council or someone who could come and remove the bee's kindly and safely but!

They are inside the plastic sofet/fascia boards of the roof, and they access the nest via small gaps where the sealant has perished/come away. I cannot see how a bee keeper would effectively remove the swarm without having to take my roof boards apart?

If they can smoke them all out and catch them then cool, but if the physical nest has to be removed as a whole, then I'm not leaning towards 'Duhawakz' post.

I've had an idea if it comes down to it, that I could attach a long length of small bore plastic tube to a nozzle and spray in 2-3cans of wasp killer, from a safe location, before I run off feeling guilty for becoming a mass murderer? Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd leave them alone then unless they're causing you problems... no need to exterminate them if they're not a problem.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from not being able to have the bathroom window open for fear of a face full of big angry Bee, they are not causing a huge problem for me. Few questions though:

1, When does the season end as such, and will they all die before winter?
2, Am I ok to just seal up all the gaps and stop them getting in again for next year?
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:


Holy shit, is that a Lego technic digger???



Yep, and it also turned in to a truck with a HIAB on the back.

I had the same kit as a kid, mum n dad still have it in the loft!
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Apart from not being able to have the bathroom window open for fear of a face full of big angry Bee, they are not causing a huge problem for me. Few questions though:

1, When does the season end as such, and will they all die before winter?
2, Am I ok to just seal up all the gaps and stop them getting in again for next year?


I do not know, BBKA may be able to answer that for you, even if they're not interested in removing the bees.

I don't think bees particularly like the indoors though, unlike wasps. In fact I can't ever remember having a bee inside the house, yet thousands of wasps and flies over the years. Don't know anyone who's been stung by one either... they're not very aggressive unless the hive is threatened.


Does the window open inwards or outwards? If it's inwards, you could put a flyscreen over the window frame on the outside of the house and that'll keep them out.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:

Holy shit, is that a Lego technic digger???


Yes, Lego Technic. Now donated to nephews

waffles wrote:
Also that wasp nest is huge, burn the house down and claim off insurance.


It was about 3 foot across (looking online it said a large wasp nest could be up to 12 inches across....). I opened the loft hatch, took the photo and shut the hatch quickly Laughing

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Mother of god. When you say you didn't do anything, is that because no exterminator would take on the job and they killed and ate the priest you hired to exorcise them?


We ignored it for a for months and had no problems. Once they had gone at the end of summer we called the council bod out to remove it. They kept saying that it was easy and we could do it ourselves, and they would have to charge to remove it. Eventually persuaded them that we were happy to pay. When the bod came out he said "mmm, is a bit of a big one". Too several bin liners to take it away.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:53 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I found a stunned/dead one on the floor last night. They are definitely big chunky Bee's, not wasps or hornets. They are about the size of bumble bee's but the stripes on the body are not very bright yellow, more of a beige colour in fact.



Could be a tree bumblebee, they're more brown and black than traditional yellow striped, plus they like to nest high up, like birdboxes or, oddly enough, under gutters/soffits.

Forget dealing with them yourself, get in touch with the BBKA and let the experts sort it out, properly and without harm to the bees, although honey bee keepers aren't always clued up on bumblebees.

As has been said, bees aren't generally aggressive unless you provoke them by attacking their home and bumblebees are less aggressive than honey bees (males can't sting you at all) so you're only going to get stung if you pick the wrong type and start chasing the buggers about with rolled up newspapers, or prodding their nest with various spikes/smoke machines.

If you can learn to live with them, they probably won't be around for long anyway, then you can seal up the entrances when they disappear.

I would consider having bees on my property a great privilege, in fact I went balistic at my then wife, when she wanted to pour boiling water down a nest we had in our lawn, I may even have threatened to pour boiling water on her Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they are honey producing bees, plant a load of manuka trees ... you'll coin it.

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PostPosted: 22:26 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If they are honey producing bees, plant a load of bottlebrush trees, call them tea-trees, and sell the honey as manuka; Poms won't know the difference : you'll coin it.

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PostPosted: 22:28 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bee's can stay for now.

But no more trees from B&Q. I've spent £147 on plants/shrubs for my garden in the last 2months, that I have no idea what they are called or how to look after them?

It's money that could have been spent on playing with bikes, but now I have to buy some bark chippings, and special compost for my planting tubs. And who says fixing up bikes is expensive!
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
If they are honey producing bees, plant a load of manuka trees ... you'll coin it.

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Sadly this wouldn't work... the yield is so small.
That is why manuka honey is so expensive... because there just isn't enough produced, even with all the trees and hives in NZ.

Something like 60% of honey sold as manuka in various places not... make a lot more money re-jar-ing some normal stuff than planting trees to produce genuine stuff Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugger *snaps fingers*

I did wonder how they kept the bees ONLY on the manuka trees.
I imagined strange devices including fine netting and orchards of trees... perhaps bee-restraining orders, or only being allowed out on tag in certain areas.

And all those other honeys: clover, etc. WTF?

Do they tie little signs on the bees saying "for manuka only" so the flowers don't let them land?

Like a little Nil by mouth sign, but for bees.

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