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PostPosted: 19:28 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Swimming with fins Reply with quote

Hi

The mission for fitness goes on. As well as going to the gym, I've started to swim for a bit after for a bit of cardio. Am enjoying it. Have seen them fins you can get and am tempted to try a pair. I'm not bothered about spending an hour plodding up and down nonstop. I've been doing a length or 2 as fast as I can between rests giving the heart a good 'ol pump. So thought I might go even faster and maybe give legs more of a workout using fins.

Anyone use em?
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will propel yourself faster, and with less effort than without them, you will in effect be exercising less.

You can develop good 'finning' technique and strengthen your legs, but you can only 'fin' harder up to a point, you can only 'push' so much water in a given time, the resistance becomes too great.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

fair point. but wont it make you use your arms faster to keep up the pace?
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we talking swimming-pool useage? Forget it, H&S alert. I've tried to take goggles in on occasion, always been told I can't.

"Why not?"

"Danger of broken glass".

"But it's tempered glass...look, they're pro goggles and shit."

"But they could cut somebody's feet."

"If I gave you your best shot the only thing that'd be broken would be your fucking feet."

"You have to remove your necklace too."

"Why, in case I strangle myself?"

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PostPosted: 20:30 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure where you swim but it shouldnt be a problem for me. most lane swimmers wear goggles, the other half of the pool not in lanes is for kids and stuff and theres a range of beach balls, floating board things and other stuff. would be really suprised if they got arsey about using fins for lane swimming, specially if im the only person using the lane
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I encountered someone using fins in the lanes, I'd interrupt myself specifically to dunk them thrice with extreme prejudice.

You have feet, you are a human, not a fish.
Fins (and I take it by that you mean FLIPPERS) are for exploratory diving, e.g., in the sea, for pearls, oysters, wrecked ships and kina Laughing

... not for doing fucking lengths Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see where you are coming from.
They will create extra resistance for your legs to push against, giving you a better lower body workout.
However as a direct result of their being more efficient at propelling you along, you'll be ploughing along at quiet a pace.
Not a problem if you have your own lane etc however if its a circuit then it could get annoying for others.

Sod it though, I'd say give it a punt!

-Jvr
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this what you're after? Very Happy

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PostPosted: 09:51 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:00 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to work harder in the pool, get yourself a Pull Buoy.

Best £10 you'll ever spend Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 10:20 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:


A good alternative: Ultra swimming strength enhancer VII.


Sorry I'll stop now Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a swimmer but the Mrs is a competative swimmer and a member of our local masters club. So this advice comes from what I've picked up from her.

You want to work your legs, use a float for your arms and work your legs and vice-versa.

You want to work harder, get a drag-suit (the opposite of a skinsuit).

You want even more cardio, learn butterfly.

What you should be doing is interval cardio work. Swim normally and during that swim do three, 20 second bursts of the absolute maximum effort you can possibly do (you ought to be totally exhausted by this point) then warm down to your normal rate. It's basically one length of utterly flat-out 'fly or freestyle for most reasonably fit people with poor technique.

You want a proper, full workout, go open water swimming. Mrs stinkwheel does 4 miles twice a week in the pool but a mile in open water really takes it out of her.

You should try going along to your local masters swim club and try a couple of their training sessions. I garauntee they will give you a 2 hour swim session that will leave you utterly fucked. Then you'll realise there are guys in their 60's in the fast lane...
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just swim using normal hands and normal feet. Like a normal person.


The most effective way of training in the water I found was to do one length sprint at all out intensity, then three recovery lengths at 5/10 intensity. Quick sip of drink. Repeat.

Leave a bottle of water at one end of the pool so you don't have to get out of the pool for a drink.


Done properly, 15-20 minutes of that will be a more effective workout than 1 hour of swimming at a consistent pace
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:

The most effective way of training in the water I found was to do one length sprint at all out intensity, then three recovery lengths at 5/10 intensity. Quick sip of drink. Repeat.



Genuinely interested - why did you say 5/10 instead of 1/2?
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
LlamaFarmer wrote:

The most effective way of training in the water I found was to do one length sprint at all out intensity, then three recovery lengths at 5/10 intensity. Quick sip of drink. Repeat.



Genuinely interested - why did you say 5/10 instead of 1/2?


Just keeping with the 'out of ten' scale. I had originally put 6/10, but then decided to drop down a point because it's hard to keep up for 20 minutes
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My coach recommended me the British Gas SwimFit site (www.swimfit.com) - there is different work outs on there (depending on the area you want to focus on) and all of them are differing levels of difficulty.

The nice thing is you can print them off, laminate them and have them pool side (my pool does). Plus you can log your activity and progress as you go.

Some work outs require aids like a kick board or pool buoy but they're not very expensive to buy.

If you're only just getting back into swimming, make a good set of goggles your first investment!!
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will have a look thanks. Have bought some goggles, makes a big difference!

I'd love to learn butterfly but I can't find anyone local to help show me as I can't seem to get the dolphin kick
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mic wrote:
Will have a look thanks. Have bought some goggles, makes a big difference!

I'd love to learn butterfly but I can't find anyone local to help show me as I can't seem to get the dolphin kick



Watch some youtube videos to get an idea of it and then get someone to watch you whilst you lie face down on a stool and attempt it. Gives you an idea of any gross errors.

Go swimming when there is a lesson on, and at the end of that lesson catch the instructor and just ask them if they can have a quick look at your technique. Pretty sure most would be happy to advise
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make swimming easy and buy this:
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 04 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mic wrote:
Will have a look thanks. Have bought some goggles, makes a big difference!

I'd love to learn butterfly but I can't find anyone local to help show me as I can't seem to get the dolphin kick

Its quite straightforward, sounds crazy but really its just wiggling up and down like a maggot (that's how it was describ ed to me when I learnt it, aged about 9 Laughing ) ... the hardest part is getting the hang of doing your breathing on the upswingss (whilst your head is out of water). Then you do the arms motion in time, using your shoulders to "pull".

I can say that NOW, cos I haven't actually performed butterfly with any efficiency for probably 35 years Laughing
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PostPosted: 05:35 - 05 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're REALLY out of practice then also consider a few lessons. I've not swum regularly in years and had never really learned to maximise the efficiency of my strokes (I was slow and clumsy next to other swimmers who clearly knew what they were doing). Swimming is my primary form of exercise (I can't do high impact exercise like jogging due to joint issues) so I wanted to get the absolute maximum from it.

It's made a LOT of difference so far - especially to my solo sessions, plus it's the added benefit of a dedicated coaching session.
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