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| TheArchitect |
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 Posted: 08:56 - 04 Jun 2014 Post subject: Where are all the decent folk? |
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On Sunday I put my PCX up for sale on Gumtree and Preloved. Opted for those two sites because it's free to list and thought maybe it'll attract more local folk for a quicker, friendlier sale.
Oh how wrong was I ??
All I've had so far is a number of attempts at a paypal scam, possibly by the same knob under different guises; one guy who insisted on bank transfer payment and on taking the bike as soon as he saw it without insurance or even a crash hat, naturally I said no; and one suspected dealer posing as a private buyer who offered me a third of the asking price.
So I ask you.. where are all the decent, straight up buyers? Is it me or where I live (north London)? Don't get me wrong I'm all up for a haggle so it's not I'm being picky about the money, but it seems the days of turning up with the money in your pocket and bagging a good deal are gone.  ____________________ GSXR 600 K6 - Stolen
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I was expecting the usual 'ship abroad' and 'meet you at the docks' scams when I sold the Mazda but I got none! a bit disappointed to be honest! I did get the odd numpty offering £500 though  ____________________ Up the bum no babies. |
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It's because most people in London are not human beings, they are animals who would steal the last crust of one another and step over someone dying in the street which is why I totally boycott the place.
Move. It's the only way. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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| Rogerborg |
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Why did you turn down the bank transfer? I'd prefer that to cash.
And why take it off Gumtree? Exactly the same people can see your ad on eBay. Oh, I hope you went for a classified ad: an auction is asking for the fantasists to have a ball with drunken 2am "2 be honust m8 the cat sat on teh keyboard" bids.
Anyway, my thinking is that you have to mine through a lot of dross to find the gold. Write your advert for the benefit of the savvy, monied buyer that you want to turn up. There's no point in trying to dissuade the mongs, tyre lickers and scammers: they won't read it, or won't care, and any ranting will just put off the genuine buyers.
And try not to get riled up or impatient. I've got plenty of anonymous texts and "offers" from chancers. They all get the same reply "Thanks for your interest. The asking price is listed in the advert. Would you like to view the bike?"
In the event, I've sold everything for what I wanted to get, to people who knew what they were buying and nobody got dicked around. Just don't expect your dream buyer to turn up straight away. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Why did you turn down the bank transfer? I'd prefer that to cash.
And why take it off Gumtree? Exactly the same people can see your ad on eBay. Oh, I hope you went for a classified ad: an auction is asking for the fantasists to have a ball with drunken 2am "2 be honust m8 the cat sat on teh keyboard" bids.
Anyway, my thinking is that you have to mine through a lot of dross to find the gold. Write your advert for the benefit of the savvy, monied buyer that you want to turn up. There's no point in trying to dissuade the mongs, tyre lickers and scammers: they won't read it, or won't care, and any ranting will just put off the genuine buyers.
And try not to get riled up or impatient. I've got plenty of anonymous texts and "offers" from chancers. They all get the same reply "Thanks for your interest. The asking price is listed in the advert. Would you like to view the bike?"
In the event, I've sold everything for what I wanted to get, to people who knew what they were buying and nobody got dicked around. Just don't expect your dream buyer to turn up straight away. |
Turned down the bank transfer last night because the guy didn't seem right, he was the one that wanted to ride away there and then with no insurance or crash hat. Had a bad feeling he might ring his bank up in the morning and cancel the transfer
I'm fed up of tests at 4am from people on Gumtree. Could just be my area, who knows but I can't be bothered with it any more.
I put it up as Buy Now or Best Offer on ebay. So far had 2 reasonable offers which I'm sitting on. ____________________ GSXR 600 K6 - Stolen
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| LondonCommuter wrote: | Turned down the bank transfer last night because the guy didn't seem right, he was the one that wanted to ride away there and then with no insurance or crash hat. Had a bad feeling he might ring his bank up in the morning and cancel the transfer |
Can't be done (by mere mortals), but it is best not to deal with mentalists.
Did you invite him to come back with cash?
| LondonCommuter wrote: | I'm fed up of tests at 4am from people on Gumtree. Could just be my area, who knows but I can't be bothered with it any more. |
But... the same people are likely to be on eBay.
Now the decent people looking on Gumtree - and there are some - are out of the picture.
That's why I have a stock reply. Batter it out, assume that's the last you'll hear, try not to sink to their level.
| LondonCommuter wrote: | I put it up as Buy Now or Best Offer on ebay. So far had 2 reasonable offers which I'm sitting on. |
Face to face? With names to them?
That Buy It Now... what happens if someone clicks on that? Does the ad end?
I'd go with a straight classified ad saying "here's the bike, here's what I want, come see it and make an offer". As you say, how it used to be done. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I've sold a fair few bikes through classified papers, no problems with the buyers and prospective buyers that showed up, but yeah - a shed load of dodgy offers too alongside the enquiries. Par for course.
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[/quote]That's fine your bike your rules, I'm just giving you feedback on your advert and I will immediately skip your advert.[/quote]
I fully see your point. I guess the recent dicking about has put me in a militant mood!
I may just add a note to the ad with a more precise location. Thing is, on Gumtree it did show the exact location because of the way their ads work.
cheers for input though  ____________________ GSXR 600 K6 - Stolen
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 297 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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