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Snorty
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Idiot crossing lady Reply with quote

There's a crossing lady on my road, she's absolutely terrible, she'll stop cars every time somebody even *looks* like they're going to be crossing the road. Instead of stopping the cars and letting a few through, she stops the traffic, lets one car through, then stops them again, and she'll sometimes just stand in the road whilst constant streams of people cross. (even if they're not AT the crossing yet).

She obviously doesn't drive, and I've heard a few people say how shocking she is at her job.

Well today she was stopping the traffic, so I took advantage of the situation and filtered to the front. She decides to start mouthing off to me, stupid bitch. "Can you stop moving please".

Lolwut? I'm not going to heed the instructions of some brain donor crossing lady who doesn't know anything. Can I make a complaint about her? Who do I complain to? She has no right to be giving me orders when I'm making a perfectly legal manoeuvre - she's obviously part of the anti-biker anti-kitten-killer brigade.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the job of the lollipop people was to ensure safe crossing for the kids whilst, and this is the important bit, controlling the flow of traffic to prevent congestion.

Out of order for going at you like that. Sounds like she needs a refresher at the lollipop school of pedestrian crossing management.

PS. you can complain to the local council as she is likely employed by them. Good luck with that though.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other side of the scale, there are a couple lollipop ladies that I see on my way home sometimes and both are really good. They seem much better than traffic lights anyway!
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Local council, obviously, shouldn't take more than a few minutes.

28 Stopping of vehicles at school crossings.

(1) When a vehicle is approaching a place in a road where a person is crossing or seeking to cross the road, a school crossing patrol wearing a uniform approved by the Secretary of State shall have power, by exhibiting a prescribed sign, to require the person driving or propelling the vehicle to stop it.

(2) When a person has been required under subsection (1) above to stop a vehicle—

(a) he shall cause the vehicle to stop before reaching the place where the person is crossing or seeking to cross and so as not to stop or impede his crossing, and

(b) the vehicle shall not be put in motion again so as to reach the place in question so long as the sign continues to be exhibited.

(3) A person who fails to comply with paragraph (a) of subsection (2) above, or who causes a vehicle to be put in motion in contravention of paragraph (b) of that subsection, shall be guilty of an offence.


Are there lights as well? And if so, are there zig-zags? If so, then you shouldn't overtake any moving vehicle within the zig-zags.

If the lights are showing red, then you shouldn't overtake the nearest stationary vehicle to the crossing.

TSRGD 2002 S28. That's strictly down to the zig-zags and lights though, and has nothing to do with Wanda Wawwipop.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine had an incident like this outside a school in Nottingham, just before it kicked out. No kids in sight, but the lollipop man wandered into the road.

Friend: "Excuse me, could you let me past?"
Arsehole: "I can't. I have to let the children cross."
Friend: ~looks around~ "But there are no children."
Arsehole: "Well there might be soon."
Friend: "Are you fucking kidding me."
Arsehole:" I take my job very seriously, sir."
Friend: "Get out of my way or I will ram that stick up your arse."

He moved.

I think it's just a case of people exploiting the small amount of power in their grasp, like how some bouncers decide you're not allowed inside even though you're clean, sober and well dressed, just because they can.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Re: Idiot crossing lady Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
There's a crossing lady on my road, she's absolutely terrible, she'll stop cars every time somebody even *looks* like they're going to be crossing the road. Instead of stopping the cars and letting a few through, she stops the traffic, lets one car through, then stops them again, and she'll sometimes just stand in the road whilst constant streams of people cross. (even if they're not AT the crossing yet).

She obviously doesn't drive, and I've heard a few people say how shocking she is at her job.

Well today she was stopping the traffic, so I took advantage of the situation and filtered to the front. She decides to start mouthing off to me, stupid bitch. "Can you stop moving please".

Lolwut? I'm not going to heed the instructions of some brain donor crossing lady who doesn't know anything. Can I make a complaint about her? Who do I complain to? She has no right to be giving me orders when I'm making a perfectly legal manoeuvre - she's obviously part of the anti-biker anti-kitten-killer brigade.


It's helmet-cam time...
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how she'd react if you killed the engine, got off the bike and pushed it past her before getting back on and riding away.

That is of course, if you wanted to induce rage and letters to the editor of the daily mail. In green biro. On lined A4. With at least five exclamation marks!!!!!
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Punch her in the tit?
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some lollipop signs have a camera built in, they all have the black bar of the sign as a matt black strip so that they can write the registration down on it with a bit of chalk kept in their pocket if a car fails to stop when they step out (penalty points time).
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I wonder how she'd react if you killed the engine, got off the bike and pushed it past her before getting back on and riding away.

Execution by gunshot to the head.

Note that the offence is "driving or propelling". From similar language in (e.g.) the helmet regs I'd expect that's not a get-out clause.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to a residents association meeting yesterday.

the first 25 minutes was someone slagging bikers off Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

She can only stop traffic when CHILDREN are waiting to cross!

My wife did a stint as a crossing person many years ago when our lads were at school right up till some gangsta who didn't like being stopped in his car stuck a gun in her face Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave500 wrote:
Punch her in the tit?


So PC
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Growler wrote:
She can only stop traffic when CHILDREN are waiting to cross!

Where does the legislation that I quoted in full above say that? Thinking
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't but it does say when a person is crossing or seeking to cross, not for folk wandering about but for folk who clearly want to cross!
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if you drive past a crossing keeper when there is no one crossing or waiting to cross, then that person is not guilty of an offence?
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crossing people are counter productive, parents need to teach their kids how to cross roads and that'd be problem solved.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
So if you drive past a crossing keeper when there is no one crossing or waiting to cross, then that person is not guilty of an offence?

That seems pretty clear, yes.

The point above was about CHILDREN, which aren't mentioned in the legislation. It might very well have been what a crossing guard was told though.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Crossing people are counter productive, parents need to teach their kids how to cross roads and that'd be problem solved.


The parents are the biggest hazards. My wife does crossing patrol and one mother managed to squeeze between her (in the middle of the road seeing kids across) and the kerb , shoving her over with the wing, because she had already collected her own kids and wanted to get going.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where was this? I want to go see her and do some filtering.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the confusion stems from the signs themselves which sometimes say STOP CHILDREN or have pictures of children crossing.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
I wonder how she'd react if you killed the engine, got off the bike and pushed it past her before getting back on and riding away.

Execution by gunshot to the head.

Note that the offence is "driving or propelling". From similar language in (e.g.) the helmet regs I'd expect that's not a get-out clause.


Unless in my partially drunken state I have misunderstood, you're saying even pushing it past her would be an offense? what about if you pushed it to the kurb, mounted the path, key out of the ignition, then past her, remounted the bike and continued onto the road driving?

Surely that would be akin to breaking down temporarily? Thinking
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What really fucking grinds my gears are those lollipop people (best be PC about it) who stand at traffic lights and press the fucking button for people to cross and when the green man shows up goes into the middle of the road with their stick regardless; to make it look like they are actually doing some form of work.

Either get rid of the traffic lights or get rid of the lollipop!!!

Alternatively, move up the road a couple of yards and work for your fucking money.

Sorry, rant over.




What would be the offence if you were to drive around a lollipop person if there was no one else on the road crossing at the time?
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't an offence, I assume that'd be the same as driving around any other pedestrian in the road as the lolly pop people are only allow to stop traffic where someone is crossing or seeking to cross the road.

If they're just standing in the road when there's no one crossing or wanting to cross, take a picture and send it to the local council.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Lollipop man near where I live*, and he takes his job very seriously... if you're at the front of the queue he will make eye contact, then point to the red light - turn and do it the driver from the opposite direction.

Then, and only then, he will let kids cross.


*Yes, it's a normal pelican crossing, and there is a lollipop man who presses the buttons for the kids.
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