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ScaredyCat
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Impact driver recommendation? Reply with quote

Has anyone got a recommendation for an impact driver?

I've looked at a few but they seem a bit expensive

Makita BTD146Z but that's about 190 with a battery

DeWalt DCF885C2 - about 170 quid..


anything cheaper that's not made of butter?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you need it to be cordless? I haven't found one I'm impressed with yet.

The 240V ones are much cheaper and much more powerful.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not bothered about it being cordless.

The bodies of the cordless ones seem reasonable, until you add on the cost of the battery. Will hunt for corded...
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corded all the way!
IF you have to go cordless may aswell just a cheap one, for example Silverline ones do 90nm (and are not bad for price) and are under £50 with battery, charger and case etc, dewalts are above £100 and you only get an extra 17nm - then you need battery and charger etc on top.

Corded winds hands down, about £35-50 for a half decent model and decent models will go in excess of 250NM
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-CEW1000-Electric-Impact-Wrench/dp/B0039BQRUO

Never let me down, its pretty big and heavy but hasn't been as issue for me.

Don't use in the rain, makes smoke.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
I have 2 of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-CEW1000-Electric-Impact-Wrench/dp/B0039BQRUO

Never let me down, its pretty big and heavy but hasn't been as issue for me.

Don't use in the rain, makes smoke.


Those reviews seem to suggest that the 450nm is all unleashed at once with no control at all ... seems a bit extreme... although cheap
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you plan on using it for primarily,
My mate has a de walt and its awesome for fitting windows but not enough guts to use for suspension on a car,

I have a Machine Mart 230v one for car work and its awesome but rather powerful,
I also have a Compressor with air tools for other stuff,
depends what Im doing.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use mine for un-doing stuff.

there is no way to tell how tight something is or isnt with an impact driver.....
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I just wander through a wormhole to some Future Thread on the moon? Eh?

An "impact" driver is something that you hit with a hammer. I think mine was £18 from Halfrauds, and it doesn't need any Voltrons to work, you just SMITE it, ideally while channelling Brian Blessed.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Did I just wander through a wormhole to some Future Thread on the moon? Eh?

Yep - welcome to the 21st century!

Here we make much good use of that new invention you probably saw in the newspapers - electricity!

We can even carry it around in little boxes we call 'batteries', where by you can use it wherever you want. Just think - the power of ten hammers all hitting within seconds of each others, all stored in a teeny little box!

This has the added bonus that for this tool, it actually undoes stuff rather than purely leaving you with the end result of a painful thumb and an hour less to find a better solution.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Did I just wander through a wormhole to some Future Thread on the moon? Eh?

An "impact" driver is something that you hit with a hammer. I think mine was £18 from Halfrauds, and it doesn't need any Voltrons to work, you just SMITE it, ideally while channelling Brian Blessed.


Feel free to call it an impact gun, but as nothing shoots out, driver is more suited i think....

I have the manual ones you speak of too, better suited to screws and small nuts IMO
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I 'won' a second-hand Makita impact wrench from the bay. I think that I paid around thirty squids for it and though it doesn't get a lot of use, it hasn't failed to undo anything that I've used it on so far. Mind you, it does knock-out just shy of 600 Nm's.
If ever I'm in a situation where power isn't available, I find one of these can be useful:-

https://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/IMG_0378.jpg

D'ya know what it is yet?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 14 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, about £1500 worth of clever gearing system Wink
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a torque multiplier.
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Did I just wander through a wormhole to some Future Thread on the moon? Eh?

An "impact" driver is something that you hit with a hammer
. I think mine was £18 from Halfrauds, and it doesn't need any Voltrons to work, you just SMITE it, ideally while channelling Brian Blessed.


https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=impact+driver

Google is the answer lol
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugh Farking Cant wrote:
It is a torque multiplier.

Wrong
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a Dynapact manual impact wrench.

Always wanted to try one. Arent they suppose to have like 1000Nm of torque?
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

got me one of these a few years ago
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2
the only thngs that it has failed me on, is a scooter rear wheel centre nut one head bolt and being used to tighten down the flywheel puller to remove a fly wheel - the wheel finally gave way with a 10 ton hydraulic, and even then it needed the assitance of alot of heat
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A decent cordless impact gun will cost many hundreds. The sort mechanics use on a regular basis anyway.

Corded you can get much cheaper.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
Hugh Farking Cant wrote:
It is a torque multiplier.

Wrong


Howay then; clever cunt :

Infact ; Unless you name is Francois from Belguim;

You took the picture from this thread.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65386


Facom dynapact 3/4" 2000Nm


Manual impact wrench Torque Multiplier 3/4" drive.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torque Multiplier;
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Facom-3-4-Drive-Dynapact-1000nm-Manual-Impact-Wrench-Torque-Multiplier-NK-300-/231158923035?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item35d2253f1b
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's mis-named calling it a multiplier IMO. A proper multiplier requires a reaction arm.
That thing stores rotational energy and releases it in a burst which is exactly what air and electric impact guns do, just that they do it many more times a second. The main different in my eyes is that you can properly measure the tightening torque of a multiplier but that tool is just a highly-variable estimation based on several factors.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Did I just wander through a wormhole to some Future Thread on the moon? Eh?
...welcome to the 21st century!

Here we make much good use of that new invention you probably saw in the newspapers - electricity!...

In his defence I believe that the Borg hails from Scotchland. So the 20th century is an option. Like fresh fruit and salad. I think the barter system also works there, so 2 ewes, a pig and a chicken should get you a rust free Honda wife. Wink

On topic, I have a bash with hammer impact driver. It works, sometimes. The therapeutic value is immeasurable. I need to try one of the electric ones as a friend swears by his for work on his car. So interested in any recommendations.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 15 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume you don't have or have plans to have an air compressor?

You'll get best results from a half-decent air one, but it's a good bit more kit, of course.

If you've got 240v, something like the Clarke linked above.

If not, a 24v battery one with the high NM you can find for £80 or so.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 16 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugh Farking Cant wrote:
Howay then; clever cunt :

Why do you call me a clevercunt, clevercunt?
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