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woll
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 25 Jun 2014    Post subject: Dvla wankers Reply with quote

Had a letter off the dvla last month about a car i sold mid december saying it wasnt insured. The v5c was sent off when the car was sold. So i sent them a letter back to tell them again the car was sold. About two weeks later recieved another letter from the dvla saying i hadn't included the cars registration on the letter, it would appear they can't read as it was on the letter. No bother i thought. i sent the letter back confirming the registration thinking that would be that.
Oh no just got home to find a letter from them informing me they're fining me £100 for failing to insure. I have a few choices
pay early £50,
Pay late £100,
Go court or
Contest.
Read the bollocks about contesting. I need proof the car was insured in june, not my car so dont have that. Or proof the car was sorned again something i dont have. Or i need to tell them again ive sold the car but i need the letter of confirmation from the dvla to say they recieved the v5c. But i never got one and pretty sure ive never had one in the past when ive sold cars or bikes.
Do i try to conest and just state that i never recieved the letter from them?
Or do i let them take me to court and risk the £1000 fine and £90 court cost?
Surely i've fulfilled my duty by sending them the v5c and another letter to confirm? So could i argue its royal mails fault or its their own admn thats cocked up?
Help.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 25 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you send the logbook off as first class signed for and have proof?
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 25 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope never needed to before never have done. Way i always seen it they tell you to s3nd them the log book. That is your part of the contract fulfilled, it is not your duty to ensure that the log book is recieved and processed correctly by them.
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PostPosted: 04:55 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

woll wrote:
Nope never needed to before never have done. Way i always seen it they tell you to s3nd them the log book. That is your part of the contract fulfilled, it is not your duty to ensure that the log book is recieved and processed correctly by them.


In their current "witch hunt of wrong do-ers" I'd be inclined to post it at a post office and get the free proof of postage. However I've been to court with them 3 times, 3 times they have lost.
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PostPosted: 06:13 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

After hearing all of the stories about the DVLA, I keep my dealings with them recorded. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

If you don't have any proof or the confirmation letter, I don't really know what you could do. Maybe it'd go your way with the "It must have got lost in the post" line?

Best of luck with it. Karma Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:48 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Receipt to prove you didn't own the car,
Then supply new owners details in court,
Not sure why you would pay someone elses fine.
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your duty is to "deliver" the change of keeper. It's a bit of a lottery in front of the Magistrates, but it's a long road to court.

Unless you're Paddy, they're more likely to punt it to their "debt" collectors since they don't get a penny of any court fine, at which point ignore it.

Thing is, they're implying that the new owner didn't contact them to get a V5C, or insure, or SORN. How pikey were they?
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Unless you're Paddy


I do think I get the shitty end of the stick Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Unless you're Paddy
I do think I get the shitty end of the stick Laughing

Paddy, you own the shitty end of the stick.
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woll
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Your duty is to "deliver" the change of keeper. It's a bit of a lottery in front of the Magistrates, but it's a long road to court.

Unless you're Paddy, they're more likely to punt it to their "debt" collectors since they don't get a penny of any court fine, at which point ignore it.

Thing is, they're implying that the new owner didn't contact them to get a V5C, or insure, or SORN. How pikey were they?


Ah crap didnt know it was my duty to deliver. So if their debt collectors get involved im safe to ignore them?
Well i sold it to some scousers. Need i say more Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 26 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

woll wrote:
So if their debt collectors get involved im safe to ignore them?

Safe? No, nothing's guaranteed.

I would though.

Actually, I might string them out for a bit, until 6 months after you've resolved the situation (i.e. the change of keeper is finally acknowledged), and then ignore them.

And by ignore I mean tell them to refer it to the alleged creditor (there isn't one) and shop them to the FOS.
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