Advanced riding on an A2 license

[ReadySalted]

Hi all,

Passed my A2 test recently, and I'm very keen to start learning with the IAM. However, in a few months I will be 24, and by then may be bored of a restricted bike, so will be looking to resit my tests for an unrestricted license.

Not sure if I should put off the IAM stuff and just concentrate on safe riding and not developing bad habits, to ease the passing of my test in a few months, or whether I should get stuck in with IAM straight away, on the basis that it will only make me a safer and more competent rider?

[P.]

Ride around and learn as you go. Pass test. Ride around again. Use money for trackday rather than IAM.

[sidewinder]

I have just done a days RIDE ON course.leanrt a lot from ex police instructors.best part it was all free .but I gave mike my trainer £10 for his fuel. they do it for free.have a look around might be one in your area.

[Rogerborg]

Do it now, they only come out to play in the summer anyway. The bike shouldn't matter, except that your local group might be all about hammering it in NSL zones. Only way to find out is to scope them out and see.
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[Andy S]

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An alternative to the above is something like the i2i motorcycle academy training.
I have not done but I have heard (first hand) very good reports from the stuff they do.

I would agree with IAM comments. My local group is only active effectively between the summertime and winter clock changes. The IAM groups can be a bit cliquey, as said you'd have to suck it and see. I'd try more at least twice, that way you can check if your first impression (good or bad) was in any way representative.

IMHO any training is worthwhile. Could always pick up a 2nd hand Motorcycle Roadcraft and after reading go out and practice a bit.
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[Beehive Bedlam]

Waste of time and money you've already done it once.

I passed both DSA modules on my varadero MOD 1 being the easiest when I passed the MOD 2 back in May my front brake was knackered and front tyre bald.

I have never had any training apart from a shabby CBT.

[davebike]

Most IAM groups I had contact with are just as active in winter as summer !

Restricted licence is no problem LAM who I belong to get 125's most years Ok they work harder but !
I done Observed runs as the Observer on 200cc

Talk to the group you interested in f their not friendly try another !

Not everyone get on with how any given group works

Dave
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[Rogerborg]

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[Andy S]

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[SQL]

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[davebike]

No amount of training will make you bullet proof but Good training will give you a better chance of spotting the hazard in time and an understanding that you need to and are not bullet proof

As a recently retired Observer I say winter riding teaches you more

Advanced training will not make you crash proof but Hopefully it will give you an edge
IAM groups well LAM KAMG and ELAM the only ones I have direct experience of can be great fun even the training is intended to be fun and there is normally a lot of social rides

The exact requirement for an IAM test and by implication fro the training is a bike capable of making and sustaining the national speed limit i.e. 70 mph
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[Rogerborg]

[Andy S]

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Lolcat 'normal riders' what do 'advanced riders' have apart from a certificate? A car driver attempted a U turn out of no where in heavy traffic no mirrors or signal last week as I was progressively filtering I turned with him like a boss to avoid smashing into his car what does this make me?

Road craft comes with experience not a one day course and certificate I personally don't need an 'advanced rider' in a hi viz vest to tell me how to ride my bike.[/quote]

You are showing your lack of knowledge about advanced riding and training here mate.

The difference between "normal" and advanced riders?
Advanced riders ride by "the system", which most defintely reduces your exposure to hazards and helps you deal with the ones you do come across safer. It helps you to ride more progressively whilst still being safe. Any tool can do 100+mph along a national speed limit road. Doing so when the prevailing conditions allow and in a safe manner is something I have never seen a "normal" rider do to the same level as an advanced rider. Not saying they don't exist, but i bet there are not many.

And you have your facts wrong on the 1 day course and a certificate.
I can only speak for IAM but i believe ROSPA is similar. Firstly a cover to cover read and proper study of roadcraft is your starting point, alongside observered rides and instruction/advice from your observer. Then a mock test, and if they think you are ready, your proper test examined by a current class one police rider.

I am not saying "normal" riders are not safe or good riders. But I truely believe further advanced training will benefit every single rider, but will never save us from some idiotic road users. We never stop learning and improving.

P.S. Last difference is no advanced rider would say "like a boss"

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