The New Carrier

[The Wobbly Orange]

Well it's late and overbudget but it's finally named and being launched. Let's hope carrier number 2 gets along with fewer hitches.

Here it is next to its predecessor.

https://i.gyazo.com/9883bcc1df4b23fdd02a7517ee409269.png
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[Itchy]

The one we can't afford to put planes on/the planes don't exist yet carrier?
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[CaNsA]

You might want to remove the s from https

[Raffles]

I see no ships.
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[Poseidon]

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[TheSmiler]

Hmm just looks like we are over compensating..
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[N cee thirty]

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[The Wobbly Orange]

Fixed my post to show pic...my bad
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[Rogerborg]

I hope we ordered enough mothballs.
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[lukamon]

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[Robby]

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[Spudly]

Because several bureaucratic empires still need to be created and dismantled, along with the usual flurry of old boys network backroom deals and a couple of minor scandals which will cleverly draw attention away from the real fuckups in Whitehall which the government doesn't want us to pay any real attention to.
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[Itchy]

[The Wobbly Orange]

[Itchy]

[kawakid]

I recently listened to a naval history program on radio 4 and at the end of the 2nd world war the UK had in the region of 50 aircraft carriers.


This proves to me just how shit a country we are now when we don't have one.
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[Itchy]

[Polarbear]

Carriers are there to project air power far from homelands. They aren't obsolete like battle ships became because there is nothing short of invading a country and setting up an air base to take over a carriers job.

Yes they have to be protected from missiles and that's why they have huge layered defenses when at sea. An American carrier group has more fire power protecting that boat than we have in our whole navy.
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[kawakid]

[-Matt-]

Aside from the general pointlessness and wastage in this sort of defence spending, i'm less concerned about the delayed and overbudget carrier, and more intrigued as to what the hell they intend to fly off it thats worth using by the time its actually in service. See JSF project.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter_program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

This has been going on over a decade with various cock-ups along the way. Aside from the ridiculous and ever-increasing international budget for the program, the main issue is the majority of information surrounding the project was allegedly stolen by the Chinese, which if you hypothetically presume these things are about defence and they're the real long term reason we're bothering with carriers now days makes the entire project a gigantic waste of time and money. Lets be honest - we don't need an aircraft carrier to fight the Taliban and 'terrorists'.

The cheaper and more sensible option would probably be to follow the U.S' lead and set up a semi-reliable network of airbases across the Middle East and Asia, but sadly the UK is small-marbles in the bigger picture and doesn't get invites to these things. In the meantime tax payer funded defence budgets can be spunked on various corporations like Lockheed Martin for the greater good It seems beyond ridiculous in the current defence and economic climate that the MOD decided to scrap Harriers and the Ark Royal carrier leaving us with no carriers/strike aircraft for the good part of a decade, only to replace it with something not only vastly more expensive than leaving them all in service, but also pretty much useless by many accounts due to the technology being outdated/stolen in the meantime.

[Itchy]

[Rogerborg]

If they'd listened to me, they'd have bought half a dozen smallish commercial tankers and packed them with missiles, drones and helicopters. Instead the Bathtub Admirals won the bun fight and we've got ships that will be too expensive to lose, which means too expensive to use.

The memo must have gone missing.
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