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Intruder_Andy
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 21 Jul 2014    Post subject: Hyosung GT125 - idle issues Reply with quote

Hi all just finished rebuilding my bike and having issues getting it running correctly. I've cleaned carbs out and rejetted the mains 9Up one size) as I have cone filters and non standard exhaust. It revs really nicely now but unfortunately it won't idle. It seems to be running very lean as when I add choke it will run (albeit at 3k revs) but turn choke off and it dies. I've tried increasing the mixture by turning out the screws but this had no real noticeable effect.

So do I need to up the size of pilot jet (currently a #15, standard) or are there any other ways to richen the idle circuit.

The idle adjuster screw doesn't help either.

For those who aren't familiar with these bikes, it's a v twin, double carb setup.

Andy
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engines are actually pretty nice. They're already claiming 11kW though, so good job on riding Otherwise Than In Accordance. Might as well have stuck the 250 engine in there.

Based on those symptoms, I can't see any magical answer other than bigger idle jets.

Is there any baffling in the exhaust now? Try sticking your hand over the end of it to give some back-pressure, or literally put a sock over the air filters. That's not a solution, it's just for the lulz and to confirm that you need to sort the fuel/air balance.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to recall (certainly on the standard model) the airbox rubbers to the carbs were a bugger to seat correctly and they had a habit of splitting.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
I seem to recall (certainly on the standard model) the airbox rubbers to the carbs were a bugger to seat correctly and they had a habit of splitting.


I've just finished mine and sold it on and can confirm these rubbers are a ball ache (no pun etc) Very little access to tighten them up and when you think they are tight you go over the slightest of bumps and the airbox pops back out causing more air being sucked in. Glad to see the back of it to be fair. They do split very easy too. Have you joined the korider.com forum? Good luck with it as I believe you will need it.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
They're not the worst bikes in the world.



I stand by my original post,they're absolutely shite Laughing

And I've owned one......never again,I think it was made from cheese,or was it chocolate Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What specifically went wrong with yours?
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
What specifically went wrong with yours?


Absolutely everything,carb issues,electrical gremlins,poor build quality,rust,chain etc etc......

They're was an issue with the side stand switch which was common amongst them,mine was a 2007 bike and the arsehole dealer didn't even bother to tell me,I bypassed the switch myself after they did sweet fook all about it.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to assist folk in making informed decisions, then specifics help.

What carb issues?

What electrics? I've seen a GT125R instrument panel just give up completely, and the horn contacts corrode out.

Rust where? The middle of the swing arm, the exhaust, somewhere else?

Chain? Was it the original, or a replacement?

Sidestand switches are frequently susceptible to problems. My HN is notorious for it, and I've got my Enfield one disconnected. Ewan-and-or-Thingy's BMW switch brought the Long Way Down trip to a temporary halt.

I wouldn't recommend a Hyosung, but I wouldn't totally discount them either.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 22 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Cant say anything about the 125 versions of the Hyosung twins as I have`nt owned one.
I agree : put it back to standard.

I do however own a Hyosung GT 250r efi and it has been a very good bike.
I keep mine in good order and service it when it is supposed to be serviced + change the oil every 1000 miles (it`s not hard)
I have been all over Great Britain on mine and it has only ever split a link in the chain once.
I might be tempting fate , but it has never let me down apart from the one time.
Would I have another? absolutely Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 23 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies/opinions. I've put standard air box back in now, just trying to sort out a standard exhaust system then hopefully it'll work.

This has been a project bike for me to do up and get used to working on bikes and yes the build quality on these aint great but there are worse bikes about. Would I own another one? Probly not a 125 but maybe a 650.

I have joined the Korider forum but as they seem to be based in far flung parts of the world, replies are few (if any) and take a day or 2to appear, so hence asking on here.

Here's the bike so far.

https://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy72/photo_w87/Mobile%20Uploads/20140723_073831.jpg


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Dave M
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 23 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intruder_Andy wrote:
Thanks for all the replies/opinions. I've put standard air box back in now, just trying to sort out a standard exhaust system then hopefully it'll work.

This has been a project bike for me to do up and get used to working on bikes and yes the build quality on these aint great but there are worse bikes about. Would I own another one? Probly not a 125 but maybe a 650.

I have joined the Korider forum but as they seem to be based in far flung parts of the world, replies are few (if any) and take a day or 2to appear, so hence asking on here.

Here's the bike so far anyway:

When I bought it a year ago:
[img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10294433_10203556741456523_8896859223737863124_n.jpg[/img]

and now:
[img]https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10402067_10204040632913507_5091755788330650461_n.jpg?oh=acdb8cf512c4dfc4b2f5b6edfb98631f&oe=5434C6ED[/img]


I put the oil cooler of a 250 on my 125 and it's helped with heating issues. Just a direct swap. You can buy covers on internet somewhere for £20.
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Intruder_Andy
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 23 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so quick update. Changed everything topside of the carbs back to standard, original airbox/filter/breather all back on. Mixture at 1 and 1/2 turns out. STILL WONT IDLE!

Only thing non standard is exhaust and main jets. Idle jet is back to original #15.

With choke on it idles at 3-4k when cold.

When warmed up it will idle if choke on (at 3k-4k), turn choke off revs go down then it dies.

I cant put standard exhaust on as don't have one.

So basically I'm back to standard setup aside from exhaust and main jets. Seems like its running way too lean.

Turning idle screw doesn't help as this just opens throttle slightly allowing more air in which kills it even quicker.

Should I up the pilot jets again?

Andy
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 23 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Try sticking your hand over the end of [the exhaust] to give some back-pressure

What happens?
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 23 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rogerborg wrote:

Try sticking your hand over the end of [the exhaust] to give some back-pressure


What happens?


It dies, revs drop and it conks out. Only tried it with choke on as won't run long enough without choke to try it.

Andy
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