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gbrand42
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Tyre sealant recommendations Reply with quote

Does anyone regularly use slime or similar on their tyres? Interested in getting some recommendations and finding out how much it pisses off the tyre fitter when it's replacement time.

I already carry a plug repair kit under the seat, just wondering if the tyre sealer is a better option.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tried that holts stuff once

it was crap

thats all i can add sorry
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Goop. It's prevented 2 known punctures in the few years I've used it, one on a trailer and one on the bike.

I change my own tyres.
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheCatSatOnTheMat wrote:
I use Goop. It's prevented 2 known punctures in the few years I've used it, one on a trailer and one on the bike.

I change my own tyres.


Thanks for this, I've had a look at Goop on eBay. How much of a mess does it make? Ta.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gbrand42 wrote:
How much of a mess does it make? Ta.


I only wash my bike when parts are off it. I don't feel you can clean swing arms and forks properly with the wheels still on. Same with wheels, I've always taken the chance to wash the wheels once they're off the bike. This is most frequently when I'm changing the tyres. So I just wash it off with hot soapy water, as it's always been my routine. Ergo it makes no additional mess.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Holts" stuff i used, was put in after the puncture happened, then it reinflates your tyre with magical foam stuff

in reality, it fizzes a bit an oozes out of the hole making a mess an not sealing anything
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
The "Holts" stuff i used, was put in after the puncture happened, then it reinflates your tyre with magical foam stuff
in reality, it fizzes a bit an oozes out of the hole making a mess an not sealing anything
Holts stuff is just emergency repair.
I now have some Slime repair kit for that now for the bike.

Used Holts stuff as emergency repair on car and it got to repair place ok.

Tried the other can (2 for one deal) on daughter's scooter when it had a flat rear. Just came out of the hole and left white jizz on the road. Failed to seal anything. So I'm guessing works sometimes depending on tyre size/hole size.

On topic the ST1100 club used to recommend Ultra-Seal. IIRC it does work (cynic in me is not sure if they sell it because they could get it cheap).
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about the slime / goop stuff for preventative maintenance rather than the Holts "you are already fucked" stuff.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the one I use and swear by
https://www.ride-on-uk.com/
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
This is the one I use and swear by
https://www.ride-on-uk.com/

Went to that site and (a) can't see for sale for motorcycles (even though demo video is a motorcycle) Rolling Eyes and (b) the amount calculator just gives a number, but doesn't relate to product, is it bottles, ozs, hedgehogs? and (c) no way to buy, no prices (usually if I see a product with no price I know I can't afford it!).

TL;DR poor site to sell the product.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
raesewell wrote:
This is the one I use and swear by
https://www.ride-on-uk.com/

Went to that site and (a) can't see for sale for motorcycles (even though demo video is a motorcycle) Rolling Eyes and (b) the amount calculator just gives a number, but doesn't relate to product, is it bottles, ozs, hedgehogs?


It's £15 a bottle Exclamation If you read the text next to the calculator it suggests it's in ounces. Extortionate price in my opinion.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modern tyres are quite resilient to punctures from very small things, you really need to get a nail or screw in there to puncture it. If the hole is big enough to be caused by a nail or screw, I would want a proper mushroom in there rather than some sealant gloop.

I have tried it in tubed tyres, it didn't work. Haven't tried it in tubeless tyres
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used 2 eight ounce bottles and had a bit left I think it cost me about £15 for both tyres.
There used to be a motorcycle section which seems to have disappeared
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 24 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use slime in my rear tyre, at least.

In theory, it seals the hole and stops the leak - in practise, if there's green stuff all over the back of your bike, time to find the puncture repair kit. Great for pointing out slow leaks you might have missed until too late otherwise.


My tyre fitter hates it, and refuses to balance any tyres with it in (or even clean the old stuff off the rim before fitting the new tyre). If dynabeads work tho, then the slime will do the same job anyway Wink I do seriously wonder just how much his hate is motivated by knowing my tyres won't need changing nearly so often... according to him, it'll corrode any alloys into swiss cheese within minutes - but he said that every time for 4 years on the same bike, same wheels, no problems....
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 25 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
how much it pisses off the tyre fitter when it's replacement time.


£25 extra on the bill here and several other local
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 25 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an ex tyre fitting monkey I feel justified in stating:

Slime and equivalent products are fucking horrible.

They only work about 50-75% (guesswork) on punctures anyway - we used to get loads in with a flat tyre full of slime.

Then, in a fitting environment, you put the wheel on the machine to break the bead - press the lever and get a facefull of green reeking crap which also covers half the machine. Then you lift the wheel up, get a load down the front of yourself and it covers the platter as it oozes out when you're taking the tyre off. Just to add to the god-awfullness of the product, the new tyre might not seal on the bead because of lumps of dried slime that flatly refuses to budge without industrial chemical treatment (yes, it sticks to the bead like shit to a blanket, yet just oozes out of punctures and lets the tyre down).

These days I always fit my own tyres and as for punctures - in the car I have a spare, on the bike I have real repair stuff. I know in other threads and places I have stated I don't bother balancing wheels any more - if I really wanted to I'd use beads. Gloop will NOT work like beads, it's sticky and gloopy and instead of spreading around to balance it just sits in lumps... Plus it fucks up traditional balancing because it moves about, shifting it's weight around.

tl;dr - slime and similar gloops (including afterthought 'emergency' systems) can suck my dick then fuck off.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 26 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

tried it on a pushbike, it just came out of the puncture, didn;t seal it, made a mess, and prevented the puncture being mended with a patch as it now wouldn't stick.

luckily i was carrying a spare tube also, otherwise i would have been stuck miles away from home.

when i got home i took the one i had in the bike and the one i had in the car and binned em.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 27 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally use the Crafty plugger system, I was thinking of slime or other similar stuff but with 3 bikes it's not practical for me plus my bike shop don't advise it.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 27 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
The "Holts" stuff i used, was put in after the puncture happened, then it reinflates your tyre with magical foam stuff

in reality, it fizzes a bit an oozes out of the hole making a mess an not sealing anything


Ex fucking actly what it did today with the wifes car. Made a lovely mess.
Would have been better throwing the £7 down the road like a wedding poor oot
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 27 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
do they still make ultraseal?
worked for me on the viffer. once it was in i forgot about it, even at silly speeds.
was easy to use + when tyre was eventually replaced, it wasnt THAT messy,
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 28 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Slime on my rear tyre which was completely flat and it worked perfectly. Was still completely inflated after the long ride home and several days later when i got around to changing it.

I'd never used anything like it before and there was no mess or oozing or anything like that. Wasn't a speck of green in sight actually.

Tyre fitters i used didn't mention it or charge extra.

Frankly when your 50 miles from home in the rain, what a precious tyre fitter might think is very low on the list of priorities anyway.
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