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robbyb
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: reg plate light brighter when accelerating Reply with quote

My bike has a tail tidy and an LED reg plate light.

When the bike is idling the LEDs are on but when I open the throttle and the revs go up the lights get much brighter and then dull again when back at idle.

Any ideas on what may be causing this?

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PostPosted: 12:51 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shows your charging system is working IIRC
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
Shows your charging system is working IIRC


It might mean the reg-rec is fried though...
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
SQL wrote:
Shows your charging system is working IIRC


It might mean the reg-rec is fried though...


If the rectifier fried then it won't send through electric current = no charging. It is normal for motorcycle to do that, some bikes just do it more obvious. My zxr flickers the lights at the idle, yet I get normal readings at the battery.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies, I feel much better now. I have only owned the bike for 21 hours Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbyb wrote:
Thanks for the replies, I feel much better now. I have only owned the bike for 21 hours Very Happy


I was actually trying to fit LED bulbs into my tail light on the ZXR and it was like a strobe light at the idle, very fast flickering, as I passed a certain point the frequency of the flickering got so fast it felt like a constant source of light. Now I got another set of LED bulbs to try, so will see.

I'm only trying this to get a bit more power into the headlight during braking, the tail light takes 70w or so under braking, which makes my headlight go significantly dimmer, which is not quite safe at night. But, it's not like I get completely blind every time I squeeze the brake lever in dark, it's just not nice. Kawasaki can't make proper electrics, my mate's Honda has the same amount of bulbs, and even 2xH4 that are always on at the same time, and his lights never get dim and never flicker at the idle. Smile

EDIT: The bulbs took 52w not 70. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:

If the rectifier fried then it won't send through electric current = no charging. It is normal for motorcycle to do that, some bikes just do it more obvious. My zxr flickers the lights at the idle, yet I get normal readings at the battery.


It flickers the lights at idle, but if the regulator is screwed it can still let too much current and voltage flow through the circuits. If the regulator is no longer regulating it can still pass through current!!
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

70w brake light?
jeez my main beams only 65W

Tail lights are usually dual filament 5/21W
thats 5w normal running and 21W braking
or 10/42W if you have 2 blubs

Adding a short term 42w load shouldnt cause concern
on a bike with a healthy charging system, but as we know,
leds will draw much less current.
A 20 led array running @ 20 mA each @14V is about 5 watts
or about 8 watts if they max out at 30mA each.

If leds are flickering you need to get a meter on it.
as it could be due to various things

Unlike blubs, leds have a turn on voltage which has to be passed
before they light up, whereas blubs will start to glow at say 8V
and they're not fussy about polarity like what leds is.

Leds dont like voltages over about 3V max and most use series
resistors to protect them
Too small a value and they light up early and may burn out
Too high a value means the threshold voltage goes up and they
wont light up fully until this is reached.

A bikes running voltage varies with rpm, load, battery condition etc
We have nominal 12V systems which in fact run closer to 14V
If the selected led resistors are biased towards a 14V supply
you may get flickering when the bikes not fully or
consistently reaching this threshold and the leds may be struggling to turn on at times.

There are various ways to configure the leds which can make a difference in performance and quality as well
Series parallel stuff like that, better quality lights will be in parallel
with individual resistors
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I googled around, and there are two 21w/5w bulbs = 52w. I must have been mistaken. There's this:
https://www.consumabulbs.com/photo/380.jpg
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 31 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:

If the rectifier fried then it won't send through electric current = no charging. It is normal for motorcycle to do that, some bikes just do it more obvious. My zxr flickers the lights at the idle, yet I get normal readings at the battery.


They tend to be combined with a regulator though, and when that fails the voltage can get silly.

On the ZZR600 we have the voltage when revved went up to the high teens (and that is probably what fried the control unit for the Oxford heated grips).

All the best

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