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Hetzer
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Talk to me about these NAS drive thingies. Reply with quote

My external HD died a few months ago, lost my huge movie collection. Currently I download onto my PC and transfer to a stick that goes into the TV's USB slot. A bit of a PITA.

These NAS things, I kind of understand they plug into the router (as do my PC and TV) and movies can then be downloaded directly onto the NAS and played from the NAS to the TV?

What's the coup?
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provided your TV can deal with the video container and encoding type, yes.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My TV handles 90% of everything I download without re-coding (I use Freemake for that) but it's not a 'Smart TV'. It's an LG and has 'Netcast' on it, which allows streaming from Youtube and iPlayer etc.

I use its USB slot for movies and have no idea if it would see a NAS box via the router. Would I be able to stream movies from a NAS via USB at both ends?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just leave this here Wink
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unlikely, unless the NAS specifies it in the sales spiel. It sounds like something running XBMC (or whatever it's called these days) is more up your street.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

XBMC running off a Raspberry Pi for the motherfucking win.

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PostPosted: 21:06 - 08 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Mythbuntu, but that (like xbmc) requires another piece of hardware. I took the guts of my old PC in 2006 and stuck it in a shiny box and bought a couple of TV tuners.
Being a PC, you get full internet, watch any video format, listen to any music format. And it can record 8 channels at once.......not that there has ever been that amount of interesting stuff on in a week, let alone at once.
Got my 200+ DVD's + 300+ albums onto 1 little HD.

This might be of use, although I can't speak from experience:
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing out there (be it free or subscription based) compares to the combination of a smart TV and a reasonably powerful server running Serviio or the like.

The only downside is that it gets expensive once you move past 8 bays Wink
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. I've been messing about and my TV can see the 'My Videos' folder on my PC and play movies from it. But I can't get it to see past the C drive, even after adding the other drive to the library and setting it to share with the HomeGroup.

Is this a limitation of the LG TV's software?

Even so, this is a far better setup than using the stick. I just don't want to store all my movies on the C drive, it's a 250GB SSD and space is limited. It's a lot quicker and easier to transfer movies from the D drive (HHD) to the C drive though. Bye bye USB stick. Very Happy

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PostPosted: 16:19 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synology NAS boxes work as DLNA servers so your TV should see all the video files no problem.

You could install a DLNA server such as Plex on the pc to do the same thing.


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PostPosted: 16:24 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Hmm. I've been messing about and my TV can see the 'My Videos' folder on my PC and play movies from it. But I can't get it to see past the C drive, even after adding the other drive to the library and setting it to share with the HomeGroup.

Is this a limitation of the LG TV's software?

Even so, this is a far better setup than using the stick. I just don't want to store all my movies on the C drive, it's a 250GB SSD and space is limited. It's a lot quicker and easier to transfer movies from the D drive (HHD) to the C drive though. Bye bye USB stick. Very Happy

DNLA by the way.


Have you allowed Sharing of C drive ?
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:

You could install a DLNA server such as Plex on the pc to do the same thing.


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You little beauty. Up and running, yay! Cheers dude. Thumbs Up Very Happy

(Sharing the C drive made no difference, TV still couldn't see the other drives).
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found mine to restrictive I'm comparison to a micro server.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 09 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on how you get on with Plex, Serviio is also worth a look.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 11 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use an old PC as my NAS. It runs FreeNAS on a 256mb usb stick and I have a 2TB drive in it. The content will show on the TV, as well on my ATV/PC/Laptop etc.

Having a set up like this means I can leave torrents to download, run an itunes server (if I wanted to).

I just like being able to see my S: drive from all devices in the house and I only had to buy the hdd, the rest I found around the house.
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PostPosted: 03:43 - 12 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would quite likely be cheaper to buy and configure an N54L with whatever you want (FreeNas for example) than buy a NAS box. In fact the N54L would without a doubt be considerably faster and more configurable than anything else available at present for the price.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 12 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
It would quite likely be cheaper to buy and configure an N54L with whatever you want (FreeNas for example) than buy a NAS box. In fact the N54L would without a doubt be considerably faster and more configurable than anything else available at present for the price.


Yeah but my PC is already bought and it's doing the job perfectly (so far). Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 13 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Yeah but my PC is already bought and it's doing the job perfectly (so far). Thumbs Up


It isn't, you just think it is.

You PC could easily be consuming 10-20X the power that an N54L consumes.

Running a server/NAS isn't just about how well it runs but because it runs 24/7 how little power it consumes while running. Any PC will work storing files but not many do it at less than the cost of leaving a light bulb on.
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PostPosted: 07:21 - 13 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
Yeah but my PC is already bought and it's doing the job perfectly (so far). Thumbs Up


It isn't, you just think it is.

You PC could easily be consuming 10-20X the power that an N54L consumes.

Running a server/NAS isn't just about how well it runs but because it runs 24/7 how little power it consumes while running. Any PC will work storing files but not many do it at less than the cost of leaving a light bulb on.


There's a calculation to be made there. The cost in leccy of my PC being on (which it is anyway until I go to bed) vs the cost of a NAS box. Thinking
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 13 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well iirc an N54L will pull something like a maximum of 47watts so lets assume it is doing that at all hours.

47 x 24 x 364 = 410592watts or 410.592 Kw

Kw priced at 16.02p = £65.78

A standard PC pulls iirc 120w+ when idle and even more if a decent graphics card is fitted, pulls even more off idle lets say 200W (which is a low estimate) so over 4x the cost of an N54L which would create a fair saving after purchase and even after upgrading to 8gb of memory and thats in the first year of use alone.

<note>calculations may be incorrect due to lack of sleep</note>

Just took a look at my N54L and shifted it into Power save mode which will also help it save power.
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