Competent on / off road bikes

Stowelly · Traffic Copper Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Karma :

Hi Im looking to get some on / off road bikes for myself and the missus, shes gonna be on a cbt, so im guessing something like a DT 125 would be ideal for this? any other bikes with similar levels of ability in both areas?

would also like some sort of 2 stroke 250 (ish) for myself, with similar levels of onroad / offroad, possibly able to handle a 20 mile commute when my r1 is out of action

looking to spend no more than about 1500 on each. is this a realistic request?

thanks

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

DT125 and a 300 EXC.

SM wheels for both.

Do-able for £3k

Stowelly · Traffic Copper Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Karma :

Cheers Paddy. can find a few DT's at around the 1500 mark, but not a single KTM, did look into the 300 EXC but minimum i can find one is around 2500!!

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Stowelly · Traffic Copper Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Karma :

yeah, im not fussed about what my bikes like, wont be my main bike, and main purpose will be crashing into shit, so im fine with a tatty old bike. will try get a half decent DT for the missus though.

didn't think of that, off on holiday for 2 weeks, so will have another look after that! gotta love the bargains at the end of the summer, can get my commuting gear for a whole year next to new for less than 50 quid most Octobers Very Happy

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

EC300 is similar.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/gasgas-ec-300-gas-gas-ktm-crf-enduro/1075016081

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Very similar, I'd say.
I've mostly stuck with KTMs because I've already got them and so have compatible stuff - swapped my Husaberg (owned by KTM) for the first KTM 200 and kept the SM wheels to swap over to the KTM.

If I didn't already have KTM stuff, I'd probably go Gas Gas as you generally pay less for a similar bike.

Stowelly · Traffic Copper Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Karma :

cheers, ill keep looking for gas gas's too then. most id seen of them previously had been offroads only before.

how far would you say is reasonable to be able to ride something like this back from picking it up? guessing 150 motorway miles on one of these would be dreadful!

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

_Iain_ · Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma :

CR125. Much better for offroading than a DT.

Buy mine...a Duke 2 has come up at a price I can't refuse.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

For the same reason a derestricted DT125 won't be ok - because they make more than 14.6hp.
A competition bike will certainly be more capable off road, however.

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I think even the most ignorant copper would look at a CR with L Plates and find it suspicious Laughing

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_Iain_ · Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma :

In all fairness, probbably best suited to OP rather than his partner. On full knobblies tarmac gets interesting and it's not a very forgiving bike when it comes on...not as bad as the EXC200, but it won't give a new rider confidence.

Definately won't be a good commuter either...it is however fucking lulzy.
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Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

Aside from the power issue of the CR125, the seat height is likely to be problematic. I could only get one foot down on Iain's at the BBQ.
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Stowelly · Traffic Copper Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Karma :

So..... Picked up a DT 125r for the missus today, had only been rebuild 4 days ago, might have pushed it a little too hard and ended up fishtailing down the m25 at 70. what a fucking idiot! 3 hours later and my heart is still racing. guess thats gonna be 3-400's worth of work to get fixed!

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Maybe 3-400 if bottom end has been damaged. £250ish for top end stuff.

I wouldn't have been pushing it personally but you aren't me Laughing

Stowelly · Traffic Copper Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Karma :

yeah im obviously a twat..... my mechanic was kind enough to keep remind me that it was my fault! would have been so bad but i had the missus behind me in the car with the kids..... think shes about to have a nervous breakdown lol