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Commuter_Tim
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Sprocket adjustment from stock Reply with quote

I want to convert the sprocket ratio on my CG, but I'm unsure where to start.

Reason being, the '98 POS has a smaller rear sprocket than the 91-98 model.

On my last CBT, the other lad was using a brazil model, with a larger rear sprocket.
I found that due to the sizing ratio, I could blast off away from him 0-40, but anything above that I struggled to keep up with him at all.

TL:DR how do I sacrifice some low end acceleration for top end speed? (from cursory reading, if I understand correctly it should be possible)
I'm aware its a CG, I'm not expecting much.

Is it as simple as ordering the Brazil set and installing as normal? or would the splines etc likely not match?
I'm in no hurry to break out the welder Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the same size front sprocket a larger rear will give better acceleration and a reduced top speed, whereas a smaller will have worse acceleration and a higher top speed (as long as the engine has the guts to pull the taller gearing)
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, gonna be honest, I thought it worked the opposite way.

I guess I'm even more confused about it than I thought.

Is there a start point to look at, or some kind of sprocket teeth ratio chart?
Or is it all down to individuals knowledge? (seems a lot of things relating to bike mechanics are)
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its simples really,and as has been stated above

Smaller front and larger rear equals quicker acceleration and lower top end.

And then vice versa,and there's so many combinations you can try for.

I usually go for just -1 front sprocket which makes a good enough difference for me on the acceleration front,I did this on my vfr400 nc30,zx9r c1 and gsxr 1000.

If you go down this route it will throw the speedo out reading higher than it really should.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Smaller front and / or larger rear means lower gearing, so more revs for the same speed. This will give you more umph at any particular speed in any particular gear, but also means you will need to change up at a lower speed (which loses you umph).

It will help in first gear (for the tiny time you spend in 1st), but the rest of the time you can probably just sit in a lower gear for the same effect.

All the best

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PostPosted: 09:45 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:

Is there a start point to look at, or some kind of sprocket teeth ratio chart?
Or is it all down to individuals knowledge? (seems a lot of things relating to bike mechanics are)


Try this

But which is more use on the roads.

Get up and go or top speed.....
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would start by finding what is actually available that will fit your bike - try www.jtsprockets.com
Don't jump sizes by more than one tooth from standard at a time, and bear in mind that the front sprocket is going to be more limited than the rear in the amount you can go up in size before the chain starts to hit something.

Changing the front sprocket can also cause problems if a chain slider is present - too big and the chain will whip, too small and the slider will be damaged.

Also, if your speedo is driven off the gearbox, this will affect the accuracy (not so if driven off front wheel).
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did a search for CG125 sprocket sizes and came across this little gem of a reply from 4 years ago:

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You should go up one tooth on the front and go down one tooth on the rear. This way you can use the stock chain. Since chains only come in even links and it won't work with odd links if you go up one on the front and don't go down on the rear you won't find a chain that will fit.


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PostPosted: 11:02 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
I just did a search for CG125 sprocket sizes and came across this little gem of a reply from 4 years ago:

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You should go up one tooth on the front and go down one tooth on the rear. This way you can use the stock chain. Since chains only come in even links and it won't work with odd links if you go up one on the front and don't go down on the rear you won't find a chain that will fit.


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Brilliant! I did a search but couldn't find that one - who posted that???
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW comparing the two models on motorcyclespecs:

95-97 model

98-00 model

The power, torque and weight are all similar and the only difference is 3 teeth on the rear sprocket. The later bike should out-accellerate your earlier bike whilst sacrificing top speed, with similar riders on board. If you are getting away quicker but losing out in the top I'd be lookng at your air filter.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:

Brilliant! I did a search but couldn't find that one - who posted that???


It was on Yahoo answers.

Wemoto do plus and minus two teeth on CG sprockets and they have a schematic with the spline and bolt patterns to compare fitments. They also have a gearing comparison chart:

https://www.wemoto.com/info/sprocket_gear_ratios/
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