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PostPosted: 19:50 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it wants to be put out of its misery.

Perhaps the scarcity is because most owners have done so?
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purists would say the 180 Jota is the only Laverda worth having...

I'd serttle for a 120 Jota or a Mirage Wub
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The orange and black 750 formulas are cool as fuck.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:


I'd settle for a 120 Jota or a Mirage Wub



This^ +1
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 30 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Purists would say the 180 Jota is the only Laverda worth having...

I'd serttle for a 120 Jota or a Mirage Wub
Ya reckon, I had per chance the opportunity to lay my paws on a very rare 750cc twin cylinder machine from a breakers yard with only 350miles on the clock, the bike was classed as a model 3FC which was the triple disc model but this thing had a rear drum brake and twin leading shoe front with a weird rear facing air intake on the front drums which turned out to be a unique 3 to 1 ratio forced air type turbine cooling system for the brake.
I only bought the bike for the front wheel through curiousity for the sum of a 300 pound note due to fire damage around the clocks/ignition, turned out the bike was a one off special made as a demo for the british traffic cops which they never bought as it has went on fire due to a wiring problem around the steering loom,all well and good for 300 bricks but the dickhead insurance company had cut the fecking headstock of the bike due to the frame numbers contained therein making this unique one off a "none off",having said that I still have the entire bike which other than part of the frame missing runs like a watch and then there is that wonderful turbine cooled twin leading shoe front wheel.
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PostPosted: 03:31 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have the 1976 180 Jota I rode needs a rebuild !
What an animal ! the 1970's / 1980's twins were interesting as well
My other half when I har the Jota had an Alpino that was mostly in Monduick speck another Animal very fast handled great but oh so LOUD

but the later bikes like the thing you saw not so great!
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two flavours of Laverda those built in Breganzie from the 60's to the mid 80's when the original factory ceased production. The rights to the name were then bought by a totally different company based in Zane during the 90's.
The original Laverda factory made agricultural equipment, the motorcycles were the love children of Senor Laverda. As a small factory they made some remarkable motorcycles, tough as old boots, heavy, yes, tall, very, long too. Original twins were closely based on the Honda CB 72 / 77. Then a DOHC twin design, originally a 500 (also 350cc version) was developed. This engine formed the basis for the Zane built engines, but it was overstreched and poorly engineered.
A genuine Briganze Laverda is a totally different animal to the Zane models, and they are treated with disdane by Laverda owners.
The crowning glory of the Briganze factory was the Jota (180) 1000cc triple, fastest production bike of the 70's and still a useful animal on todays roads.
I'm just back from the Manx GP, my Jota put the fear of god in me and quite a few more modern offerings. Not a machine for the faint-hearted or thin of wallet.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
The original Laverda factory made agricultural equipment,

Oh, that's brought back a memory Laughing
It was shear co-incidence The Worzels had their hit the same year the SFC debuted.... Poor Steve... he went to 'The Boar' to show off his new bike, and was serenaded with "Iyve gort a brand new Combine 'Arvister".....
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The 668cc Zane Laverdas were designed by for the original Laverda organisation (in one of their guises between times going bust), with the frame designed by Nico Bakker. The very first Zane built ones used components delivered to Laverda before they were phut.

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PostPosted: 21:06 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a fast bikes road test back in 98-99 with a Ducati 748 and the Lav Formula 750 with 92bhp. They said the chassis on the Formula was very good, and while at no time would it ever be in front of the 748, due to a few bhp less mainly, they said it was possible to keep the 748 from getting away most of the time, which really impressed me actually, as I'd imagine the 748 was one of the best 600cc class bikes of the era?
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Purists would say the 180 Jota is the only Laverda worth having...

I'd serttle for a 120 Jota or a Mirage Wub


Montjuic 500 - and as I recall, they sounded pretty good too.
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italian bankruptcy law/state protectionism/corruption makes it quite difficult for a company to really go under. Fiat, Aprilia and Ducati should all have disappeared a long time ago, but the Italian Govt kept bailing them out to have another go. It's working out currently.

Even Lancia never managed to really die, Fiat bought the name and uses it on rebadged Fiats in Europe.

This means that for an Italian company to really die, it has to make some truly awful products. I think Laverda managed it in the 90s. All the terrifying mechanical noise of a 90s Ducati, but without the v-twin engine or intrinsic charisma.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
Italian bankruptcy law/state protectionism/corruption makes it quite difficult for a company to really go under. Fiat, Aprilia and Ducati should all have disappeared a long time ago, but the Italian Govt kept bailing them out to have another go. It's working out currently.


It isn't a bailing out. Rather than when a company goes bust they have 2 years where their debts are guaranteed to enable a solution to be found. Not sure this has applied to Fiat, Aprilia or Ducati (who were a nationalised company at one time). Aprilia did go bust and were bought by Piaggio

Robby wrote:
Even Lancia never managed to really die, Fiat bought the name and uses it on rebadged Fiats in Europe.


Fiat bought Lancia in the late 1960s. The cars since then have been based on Fiat platforms (even the Beta was loosely related to the Strada).

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