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PattJakk
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 21 Aug 2014    Post subject: Mod 1 done! (Edit: Mod 2 done too!) Reply with quote

Hi all. Long time lurker, first time poster.

Passed my Cat A Mod 1 in Kettering today. Mod 2 booked for 1st Sept.

Any extra tips? I'm having lots of fun with the bike I'm learning on - Ducati Monster 696 - but can't wait to get fully licenced!


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PostPosted: 19:28 - 21 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Patt, congrats on your mod 1, some say that is the harder test!

Mod 2 is all about following a strict set of rules of the road while not crashing into anybody or anything for a mere half an hour. Easy to pass, but easy to fail. Trust your instructor, once you understand the reasoning behind lane positioning, when to do shoulder checks etc, they become a lot easier to remember and ideally become habit.

Few tips off the top of my head (some I learned the hard way)

- Don't stop close behind large vehicles and vans with limited rear-view capability - always be visible in at least one wing mirror, move to the right for a view ahead.
- Don't stop in Keep Clear markings
- Don't bother filtering
- When completing a turn or exiting a junction etc, cancel indicators promptly, and get back up to the appropriate speed quickly; if the car behind has to slow for you = fail. At the very least you'll stack up minors for not making progress.

Don't panic if you think you've made a fatal mistake, or you'll likely make a worse one. Forget it and move on safely.

Don't worry if you get stuck in the wrong lane at a junction or roundabout, stick with it and do it safely - no penalty for going a different way to which you are told.

Ignore the examiner's presence, he is nothing more than a sat nav in your ear. Don't wait for a gap big enough for two.

Above all, relax and focus, stop looking at that skirt on the pavement! and so on.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 21 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply Ben. I saw your thread and note your recent pass - Congratulations! I appreciate the words of wisdom.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 21 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. Being a car driver, cancelling indicators did take a lot of getting used to at first.

The Ducati is the school's bike. Lovely ride with a lot of low end power. Thinking I may get one when I've passed! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod 2 tomorrow over in Kettering. Fingers crossed! Neutral Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a ride out on a nice day.

Doesn't matter where you go, just go there safely and confidently.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 31 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on your Mod 1 pass. Don't sweat Mod 2, try to get into a relaxed state of mind, it is definitely easier than Mod 1.

If you're anything like me you'll over analyse everything you're doing, try to snap out of it and just enjoy the ride cause your examiner probably won't be criticizing you as much as you're criticizing yourself in your head.

thought I counted like 6 or 7 of my own minors as I was riding, every time I thought I did something wrong I was like pff yep definitely a minor. Turns out I only got two minors for things I didn't even realize I did let alone all the imaginary minors I thought up!

Just be alert and remember to look at all road signs well before approaching them, if you can do that and you know how to react to most road signs you'll have a pretty easy time. Look out for speed limit repeater signs religiously and get up to speed quickly after passing the signs.

Give way to on-coming traffic in built up areas, never squeeze through a gap, judge whether you can make a gap safely or not and don't take unnecessary risks. I imagine you wouldn't be penalized for hesitation on that so long as you aren't letting a queue of 20 cars go past you when you could've gone after the first two cars.

Dont worry about what lane you're in, just follow any lane that you're in and dont ever make a sudden change, can't go wrong there! Also the independent ride on my test was pretty much "Follow the signs to xyz" and there was only one sign, it was a left hand turn... that was it, end of independent ride.

Leave plenty of space for the vehicle in front, that way you can see road markings on the floor better than if you're right up their backside. Let them pull away for at least a car length before you move off just to be sure they won't brake hard on you, causing you to also brake hard, therefore failing your test cause you caused the fucker behind you to brake hard.

Also a 20 zone remains a 20 zone until another sign says it changes.. Even if there are no 20 repeater signs, stay at 20 until you see it change. I point this out because I almost forgot this and started accelerating forgetting it was still a 20 area, then realized and throttled off to fix my speed quickly, that could've been an easy fail for breaking the speed limit.

You won't get penalized for doing "excessive observations" as far as I'm aware (unless you're really taking the piss with them and showing you have no idea what you're looking for) - so don't forget to do all your obs.

Hmm.. When he asks you to pull over somewhere safe, don't get scared and think "shit what mistake did I make" - and don't take too long about it either, if you see a gap between some parked cars go for it, he's just testing if you can stop & pull away safely.

Err dunno what else that's all I could think of, enjoy it, first 5 minutes are scary, after that it's actually pretty easy going, don't be too hard on yourself.

Good luck let us know how it goes Thumbs Up

Edit: Shit that was a longer post than I imagined, too much red bull tonight.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Teflon-Meef said.

How did it go? Surprised
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passed!!
4 minors, 2 for 'undue hesistation', 1 for 'appropriate speed' and 1 for 'approach speed' (37mph in a 40 area - nit picking or what?!)

It was absolutely tipping it down as well, the roads were horrendous!


Can't stop grinning Very Happy

Time to go shopping for the new bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass is a pass, congrats! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats man! That's definitely nit-picking haha you're not meant to stick to speed limits religiously they're just the absolute maximum, you can go slower if the road/weather/traffic conditions are not appropriate for a faster speed.

Well done, what bike are you looking at?
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

PattJakk wrote:
Passed!!
4 minors, 2 for 'undue hesistation', 1 for 'appropriate speed' and 1 for 'approach speed' (37mph in a 40 area - nit picking or what?!)

It was absolutely tipping it down as well, the roads were horrendous!


Can't stop grinning Very Happy

Time to go shopping for the new bike Thumbs Up


You ain't gonna be dwelling on little mark downs when you're zipping around on your new steed fella, congrats on the pass. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
Well done, what bike are you looking at?


I'm looking at a few. Not too sure where to start if I'm honest! Eventually I would like a CBR600RR or an R6. For now, something big, quick and good looking. Any recommendations?
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you dead set on a sports?
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

PattJakk wrote:
Meef wrote:
Well done, what bike are you looking at?


I'm looking at a few. Not too sure where to start if I'm honest! Eventually I would like a CBR600RR or an R6. For now, something big, quick and good looking. Any recommendations?


Being a yamaha fanboy I'd say gogogo grab the R6, it'll rip your arms from their sockets at full throttle haha. Definitely would get one if I wasnt stuck on an A2 license and insurance was cheaper. Having said that, I've never actually ridden one so my advice counts for fuck all Razz just a little fascinated by sports bikes.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done on the pass Thumbs Up
I had a instructor called " minor Malcom" he was known to give test takers around 14 minors on the test.he said even though you were good enough for a pass.he gave the minors to remind him to talk to you after about areas you could improve on... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any 600 will rip your arms off compared to the 125 you were used to.

Determine what you will use your bike for. Commuting, touring, purely a weekend toy?

Usually it's a combination and it's up to you to pick the type of bike which will best suit your needs.

Research - ridiculous amounts of reviews and videos for every bike available online, take each review with a pinch of salt - good or bad.

Then forget all that and buy whatever excites you the most Razz
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicely done, ignore DVSA Derek's grumpiness. It's obviously ridiculous to mark you down for staying under the speed limit in the wet. Go on, rat him out. Wink

Did you take the opportunity to properly wring the neck of the Ducati? If not, I wouldn't be too keen to jump on an RRRRRR bike straight away. What's the rush? Plenty of fun to be had lower down, and why get something nice at the start of Autumn?
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
Are you dead set on a sports?

Not at all. I like the 'sporty' look, but it doesn't have to be a sports bike. That said, I do think I will move to something like those sports bikes I mentioned in the future as it's always been a goal of mine. Smile

Meef wrote:
Being a yamaha fanboy I'd say gogogo grab the R6, it'll rip your arms from their sockets at full throttle haha. Definitely would get one if I wasnt stuck on an A2 license and insurance was cheaper. Having said that, I've never actually ridden one so my advice counts for fuck all Razz just a little fascinated by sports bikes.

An old friend of mine used to own an R6 and as a 'Yamaha fanboy' his response was the same as yours when I told him I may be in the market for one! Insurance is going to be expensive though - time for my sensible head?? hmmm Twisted Evil

sidewinder wrote:
Well done on the pass Thumbs Up

Thank you sir.

Ben90 wrote:
Any 600 will rip your arms off compared to the 125 you were used to.
Determine what you will use your bike for. Commuting, touring, purely a weekend toy?
...
Then forget all that and buy whatever excites you the most Razz

Looking forward to that thrill! I use my car for commuting so I will be riding purely for pleasure. I guess that makes your last point the most important! Smile

Rogerborg wrote:
Nicely done, ignore DVSA Derek's grumpiness. It's obviously ridiculous to mark you down for staying under the speed limit in the wet. Go on, rat him out. Wink
Did you take the opportunity to properly wring the neck of the Ducati? If not, I wouldn't be too keen to jump on an RRRRRR bike straight away. What's the rush? Plenty of fun to be had lower down, and why get something nice at the start of Autumn?

Thanks. He wasn't too bad and my instructor gave me fair warning that he will be picky. He did chirp in my ear "We're in a 40 here, that's 40, 40" which was rather annoying. Digital speedo indicating 37mph and as mentioned, very wet!

I did get to open up the Ducati on the ride home and on a few previous runs when doing Mod 1. Nice run along the A14 as I'm from Coventry and test was over in Kettering. I'm in the market for something cheap as my first 'bigger' bike. Can always gain experience and upgrade later Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 01 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done...

Have you thought of goin.. "Naked"
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