Registering Spanish Bike in UK Questions

ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

I am hoping someone can offer advice on a bike that i have seen advertised.

Its a 2006 CBF250 but the owner states.

Honda CBF250. I bought this used in Spain and it goes just fine, no problems at all. It has a scratch on the tank (you should see it in the photo). I can only think someone dropped their scooter in to one night when it was parked up.

I have brought this back to the UK with the intention of putting it on to UK plates. After sending all the documents I had off to the DVLA I discovered that I don't have the certificate of conformity. The DVLA have told me I should be able to get this from Honda but I just don't have the time.

It has passed it's UK MoT back in February ish this year. It's in Km not miles.

Is he telling me every thing i need to know?

What paperwork will I need to get my hands on a UK V5?

Supermoto_Fan · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Karma :

Selling your mint R6 and WR250 to buy a Cbf250?

Am I missing something?
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almostthere · Traffic Copper Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Karma :

you need to check whether there are any debts registered against it in Spain this might be the reason he hasn't got it registered in England if so avoid like the plague Wink

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ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

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Supermoto_Fan · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Karma :

Good luck Ian just hope you don't regret it
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almostthere · Traffic Copper Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Karma :

https://www.websterasesores.com/ fecking expensive though, I would forget this bike and buy something else
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ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Here's how I'd value it.

Start with the average price of a 2006 CBF260.

Subtract £170 for one of the 2 frames + logbooks on eBay.

Subtract 1/3rd because they'll be write-offs.

Subtract another 1/3rd because it's got no history, is in km, the frame and engine numbers won't match, and it'll be a massive ongoing ball-ache to own, insure and sell on.

A cheeky offer would be to tell the chap you'll remove his liability from him for a surprisingly reasonable fee.

A reasonable offer would be to take it away it free and gratis.
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robocog · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Karma :

If the type approval no is stamped on the frame tag it /may/ be possible without contacting Honda??

Place I work used to occasionally import vehicles from the channel isles

Paperwork I used to have to take to DVLA local office (when they existed) used to include a certificate of conformity (CoC)...snigger

the bit they needed to see/know from looking at the CoC was the type approval number (starts E1* if I recall correctly)

Surely a photo or visual inspection of the plated approval info is enough info for them to fill in the form??

I guess now that local offices are no more its not going to be as straight forward to do
The amount of vehicles we get from Johnny foreigner dried up a while back so I'm out of touch

Calling DVLA could well lead you to a different answer to the problem each time you call

https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/vat-and-tax-vehicles-from-within-the-eu

has it all in black and white however for some bedtime reading...zzzzzzzzzz

Good luck

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_Iain_ · Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma :

hasslehoff.

Frame/v5 off eBay and mph clocks/speedo drive preferably off the same bike.

Change engine number when you send off to get the logbook in your name.

Claim ignorance to all of the above when you sell it on.
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c-m · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

I thought most people from the EU just don't bother registering their vehicles here even if they intend to stay longer than 6 months (?)

I know the DVSA is trying to find a way to crack down on it.

Just enjoy some ticket free riding :p

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Erm...

Just pay £1500 for a 250-400cc commuter in UK.

Use over winter, realise its shit and sell it, ride R6 again.

FlightRisk · Spanner Monkey Joined: 08 Jul 2014 Karma :

You can get a certificate of conformity from Honda if you contact them with the VIN number. This might either be free or they might charge you £120 for a photocopy.

I wouldn't have thought the DVLA would have any way of knowing or caring if there way money owing on it in Spain.
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ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

Right,

I ignored everyone's advice and bought it.

Its a 2006 CBF125 Mint mechanically but does have a scratch on the tank where a scooter handlebars were dropped on it.

Its got 2 good tyres and 6 months worth of UK MOT even with the foreign plate.

The guy had a Spanish MOT certificate from last year, and the Spanish equivalent of a logbook(v5), 2 keys, Spanish owners manual and thats it.

The Guy has completed the NOVA (Notification Of Vehicle Arrival) and no import tax is owed on the bike.

I have confirmed that i can get a COC from Honda for Free using the VIN and the DVLA have confirmed that once they have the COC they will issue me with a V5.

Seems too simple.

this is off the honda site:-

Certificate of Conformity

If your motorcycle is younger than June 2003 then you should be able to apply using your VIN for a COC (certificate of conformity) - these can be posted directly to you, there is no charge for this service. Please email us at customer.servicemc@honda-eu.com including your full VIN number and your address details. We expect these to be posted with 5-7 working days.

I pick it up in a few days and requested the import papers from the DVLA that will come in the post. I need to complete these and return with the COC and all should be fine and dandy

Very Happy

ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

ps. if all goes tits up i will buy a V5 and frame off ebay and swap all the parts over.

I can get a frame and v5 for £100

ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

almostthere · Traffic Copper Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Karma :

If it's that easy why didn't he do it himself? lols when you find out there's still finance owing on it or some other debt registered against it Laughing

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ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

So.........

I collected the bike tonight and after spending a few hours cleaning it everything seems fine.

No rust or damage and mechanically it pretty fresh. I just need to replace the tank as it has a big scratch on the R/H side.

I applied to Honda tonight for a Certificate of conformity so hopefully it should arrive next week so i can forward it to the DVLA.

What numberplate will the bike be issued with? Will the DVLA try to give it a plate that matches the bikes age?

What will the UK V5 say on it? Will it say no previous owners? Will it mention that its imported?

What will the insurance companies think when i try and insure it?

Anyway, photos

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_010213_zpsced2fa4b.jpg

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_003203_zps87defbf6.jpg

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_003036_zps38d068f5.jpg

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_002838_zpsec44f01a.jpg

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_002756_zpseb6ed733.jpg

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_010406_zpsf6c6e3e4.jpg

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20140913_010428_zps722c10a6.jpg

I cant wait to ride it. Its only £47 a year TPFT insurance which is a bonus.

I have always fancied a small capacity bike Very Happy

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Crikey, that looks unused. The rain in Spain stayed mainly well away from that.
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ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

robocog · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Karma :

oh, i did find an issue Mad

Toolkit missing?

Looks absolutely stunning!

AFAIK they do put something along the lines of it being imported on the V5 ...think its in the "special notes" bit on the front cover (2 of mine have "registered overseas" or similar wording - can't be arsed to dig through the paperwork mountain- but will if your really that curious)

Reg they give should be age related - V5 will have something along the lines of 'approx year of first use' as well IIRC

Hope it all goes swimmingly for you

Regards
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ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

ian505050 · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Karma :

Right,

I now have nearly everything i need to register the bike.

1.) fill in application for v5 done
2.) Write cheque for £55 for registration fee and £38 for a years tax.
3) Provide Honda Certificate of conformity
4.) Provide copy of spanish V5
5) provide proof of NOVA (Notification of Vehicle Arrival)
6) Provide Proof import tax has been paid if required
Provide proof the bike has passed a UK MOT (yup 6 months ago)

Once the DVLA have received the above i will be getting a letter telling me that the Certificate of Conformity states that the bike is fine to be used on the R/H side of the road only and the clocks are in kph (this is waht it says on the certificate of conformity) bollocks!!!!

I will need to stick some MPH markers on the clocks and buy a deflector sticker for the headlight that will redirect the light slightly.

Once this is done i will have book a special partial vehicle inspection test at one of about 7 test centres in the UK so they can look at the clocks and say yes it shows MPH and Yes the headlight aim is fine.

This Test is £12.00 but............. the test centre is a long way away from me and i cant ride the bike until its passed the test. Bollocks.

So it looks like i will have to pop it in a van.

Thats where i am up to so far.............

My clocks currently in KPH only

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20141006_174524_zpsae829db6.jpg

My headlight which currently seems to have a light pattern that aims directly straight and not onto oncoming traffic.

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20141006_174501_zps0d7106c1.jpg

Headlight Info...... What does this number mean?

https://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ian505050/ian505050%203/20141006_174447_zps836e29db.jpg