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BenR
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Bajaj? Reply with quote
Anyone know if Bajaj import to the UK? I've recently seen a couple of youtube videos on the new Pulsar CS400. It's basically a KTM duke 390 but I think it looks a lot better than the KTM. I'll be looking to replace the scoot in the new year one of these may well fit the bill.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CQObeDn52s
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wristjob
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
an indian knock off ktm engine with less power.
a "sport cruiser" with a little 1 pot engine.
whats not to like?
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
wristjob wrote:
an indian knock off ktm engine with less power.

I'd love to read your sources for that. The ones that say that the Bajaj engine made in the same factory as the "KTM" engine is a "knock-off" of it.

I'm sitting comfortably, take your time and be as detailed as you like.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cup of tea whilst you wait, Roger? It'll be a while.
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wristjob
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
wristjob wrote:
an indian knock off ktm engine with less power.

I'd love to read your sources for that. The ones that say that the Bajaj engine made in the same factory as the "KTM" engine is a "knock-off" of it.

I'm sitting comfortably, take your time and be as detailed as you like.

the vid says its a thing based on the ktm platform with less power and better economy.
thats the info i have and you have
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Cup of tea whilst you wait, Roger? It'll be a while.

Two sugars and a big slosh of rum, vicar.

Actually, hold the sugar and the tea.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
perhaps the engines are assembled at ktm to a lower spec.
or made under license in india to a lower spec.
that information is not in the video
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
wristjob wrote:
perhaps the engines are assembled at ktm to a lower spec.
or made under license in india to a lower spec.
that information is not in the video

Well, off you go and get it. Chop chop.
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BenR
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 20 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
........in the meantime back on topic does anyone know if there are any dealers in the UK? Cheers. Laughing
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 21 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
BenR wrote:
........in the meantime back on topic does anyone know if there are any dealers in the UK? Cheers. Laughing

You mean, secret dealers that don't advertise themselves and can't be found by Googling, right?

Go round the back of the Hammersmith Odeon, there's a little lock-up signed "Achmed's Kebabs and Soft Furnishings". Knock three times, say "The Red Kipper flies at midnight.", they'll sort you out.

Shhh!
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BenR
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 21 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
BenR wrote:
........in the meantime back on topic does anyone know if there are any dealers in the UK? Cheers. Laughing

You mean, secret dealers that don't advertise themselves and can't be found by Googling, right?



Funny, what you think I didn't try Google first?? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 21 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Go round the back of the Hammersmith Odeon, there's a little lock-up signed "Achmed's Kebabs and Soft Furnishings". Knock three times, say "The Red Kipper flies at midnight.", they'll sort you out.

Shhh!


1. It hasn't been called the Hammersmith Odeon since 1993.

2. There are no shops behind it, its all flats.

HTH Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just to add some perspective to those who might have mild case of xenophobia etc...

Bajaj has been in motorbike / scooter business for ages. My father's first automobile purchase was a 150cc Bajaj Chetak scooter. Bajaj sold that scooter from 1972 to 2009. It lasted so well, decades later I rode it to university!

KTM-Bajaj partnership is real too - Bajaj first bought 14.5% in KTM and later in 2011 increased that to 25%. Not sure what the percentage is now. Bajaj is a huge conglomerate like Hyundai, Honda etc - they are into many things and the 25% of KTM is one of the many small investments to them. KTM 200 and Pulsar 200 is are manufactured in Pune in India. KTM intends to produce more of their bikes in India and to export to global markets. Bajaj is doing to motorcycle market what Tata is doing with cars.

Over all this is all good news. More markets coming together means more sales, cost-savings on scale, and ultimately better biking experience for bikers - Achmed, Appu, Dave, Olaf, Bruce, Zhang or whatever name they go by.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
wristjob wrote:
an indian knock off ktm engine with less power.
I'd love to read your sources for that. The ones that say that the Bajaj engine made in the same factory as the "KTM" engine is a "knock-off" of it....

Errr aren't they the same?
As in
Business Standard wrote:
...the Duke 200 and Duke 390, sold in Europe and America alongside the Duke 125, are also made by Bajaj. In fact, Bajaj-made bikes accounted for a fifth of the total sales of KTM in 2013. ...
click here for reference.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
map wrote:
Errr aren't they the same?

That's my understanding.

This...?
wristjob wrote:
an indian knock off ktm engine with less power.

Looks pretty wacist to me.

I wonder what the net profit is on painting a Bajaj orange and slapping a KTM sticker on it.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: bajaj Reply with quote
There you go found one https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/bajaj-motorcycles-three-wheel-motorcycle-keke_1973976597.html and they'll ship to England Thumbs Up job done
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BenR
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: bajaj Reply with quote
almostthere wrote:
There you go found one https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/bajaj-motorcycles-three-wheel-motorcycle-keke_1973976597.html and they'll ship to England Thumbs Up job done



You see it's shit like this that makes me not post much on here. Thumbs Down

Marjay it's going into production in February apparently.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: bajaj Reply with quote
BenR wrote:
You see it's shit like this that makes me not post much on here. Thumbs Down

OK, the first reply to your post should have been "No. /thread".

Happier?

I would buy an honestly branded Bajaj in the UK, at the right price, and with decent support. I can't though. First world problems.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 22 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: bajaj Reply with quote
BenR wrote:
You see it's shit like this that makes me not post much on here. Thumbs Down


Grow a sack Laughing

I'd like to buy one if they come out.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 25 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: bajaj Reply with quote
FTFY



Paddy. wrote:
BenR wrote:
You see it's shit like this that makes me not post much on here. Thumbs Down


Grow a sack Laughing

I'd like to CRASH one if they come out.

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PostPosted: 21:29 - 25 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry, who are you? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 25 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had a Bajaj that was officially imported into the UK.

A KB100 which was just a copy of a KH100 with a drum front end.

1994 vintage it was, it still works and quite well!

It was made under licence by Kawasaki and shared exactly the same engine. It doesnt even look that bad compared to the chinese stuff thats only a few years old.
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