Reason I've Not Had A Bike In A While

[Just_James]

Several years ago I was looking at my photocard driving license and noticed it didn't show my motorbike entitlement.
Obviously DVLA had made an error so I sent my license and covering letter to them and got the reply attached......

.... ....

I contacted them by phone straight away and they basically said nothing they can / will do! They even told me the date and locations I passed my theory and practical tests but insisted it made no difference that I'd passed, they apparently have no record of me sending in my pass certificate and so their policy is that I have no option but to do every test again.... including CBT

I didn't send my certificate by recorded mail but it was certainly sent. Following that I didn't give it another thought, I was on the road on a motorbike and all was good with the world.

That dealing with the DVLA knocked me ill and obviously really left me bitter, there was no way I could bring myself to do the tests again and indeed PAY for it all again so I have been off the road since!

Just about at a point now where I'm coming round to the fact that I've been shafted and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm missing being out on bikes too much so just gonna have to get on with it. Still a very bitter pill to swallow though

[DRZ4Hunned]

That's pathetic on the DVLA's behalf, I've realised they're nothing but a money generating scheme as they make you take separate theory tests for car and motorcycle when they're almost exactly the same.

[instigator]

Harsh lesson to learn... sending anything to the DVLA has to go recorded delivery. Most of us learn that the hard way.

[Wonko The Sane]

I take it you've not got an old license that proves you had the entitlement or a scan sent to your insurers?

I've thankfully still got my certificates as I'm new enough to bikes for it to have just been done electronically at the test centre.

Hard pill to swallow, but a friendly training centre might be happy to take you out on your own bike to make sure no bad habits will stop you walking the tests
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[Quornholio]

[grr666]

I know it's no help to the OP, but for anyone new passing their mod 2, it's a very good idea to get your
examiner to send your licence in for you at the point he/she tells you you have passed. This way you retain your
Theory>CBT>Mod1>Mod2 certificates for future use if needed. Just in case of situations such as this.
It also saves you money on postage.
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[Ballpien]

^ I did this and had no problems what-so-ever. Let your examiner do it. As he said to me, It's going from one DVLA dept to another. Why fuck about doing it yourself and risk it all going tits up...
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[Wonko The Sane]

[thomp1983]

id get the information they have showing they know you passed In writing then politely inform them of tge law regarding if you say you posted it then they received it and give them a reasonable time frame to sort it or tell them you'll see them in small claims court for all the test fees plus the expenses with taking time off to do them

[stinkwheel]

[Wull]

They're a bunch of tosspots!!!!!!
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[P.]

Was A2 a thing is 2002

[Rogerborg]

[Just_James]

[pepperami]

On a much happier note

The electrical gremlins have been sorted out on my bike and I`ve just got it back after 6 weeks .
The mighty Pepperami is now back on the road
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[gorillaonabik...]

As a suggestion which might save you time and money, why not check the law, free of charge, before redoing everything? In '95, the law was very simple. If you'd mailed it and they hadn't received it, the law would have sided with you. I am wondering if the law remains the same today.

The very fact of posting a legally issued document in '95 (not money) would have rendered a degree of legality to it in England & Wales. For example:

- Only one original certificate was issued to you.
- The DVLA confirmed the date / circumstances of issuance.
- You could only send the original certificate and a copy would have been unacceptable.
- There was no reason to make a copy which would have been unacceptable to the DVLA, especially as they confirmed this
- You sent it, had every reason to send it and it is extremely unlikely you wouldn't have sent it...

A court would have ruled in your favour back then because that was the law. If the law is the same, then you may be able to legally force them to do what they should have done in the first place.

Laws change and there are always complexities but before re-doing everything, my suggestion (for what it is worth) is to get some free legal advice. Your local branch of CAB, the usual online legal forums etc... will all be able to advise you and the CAB itself can exercise your rights on your behalf in certain circumstances (and is completely free).
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[Highwayman]

[duhawkz]

So are you saying you passed your bike test in 2002, sent off your pass certificate via unrecorded mail.

Then never quizzed why you hadn't received a new licence with your bike entitlement on it until 2010

Then took no further action until 2014
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[grr666]

[kramdra]

You have passed, you have a bit of paper issued by them confirming it.


I would be riding. Be aware insurers often ask for copy of licence.

[Just_James]

[Rogerborg]

[Just_James]

[MC]

Since when do you need to claim a test pass? I know the DVLA is a lottery, but I thought the options were surrender your license to the examiner, or send it off yourself later.

Remember something a while ago on watchdog when a lot of bikers were losing their motorcycle entitlement, think that might have been when upgrading to a photo card license.
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[Just_James]

Although I can't think of a good reason for it, there was definitely a certificate to send off within a 2 year period. I don't recall it being an option for the examiner to do it though, it certainly wasn't an option openly offered anyway or I'd have just taken it - why go to the hassle (and rather apparent risk) of doing it yourself?

I just can't see any logic in the having to 'claim' your pass

As if I or anyone else would go out and do a CBT, then a theory test, practical test and the lessons in between.... to then decide they didn't want the license and it wasn't worth 'claiming'