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I thought there had already been a thread about this a while ago, but I couldn't find it again, so:
Been reading anything good lately that you'd recommend?
I've just finished re-reading Heinrich Harrer's "The White Spider", a history of attempts on the North Face of the Eiger, having been reminded of it by another thread here recently, and having met Eric Jones, who (unbeknownst to me at the time) has climbed it himself.
So, I was looking for something else to read. I'm going to be moving house soon, and have decided that none of my actual books will be coming with me, as I've been using my Kindle for some time now, and would like to save the space wherever I end up next. So I was looking through them all, and deciding which ones I need to replace with e-versions.
Here are a few:
Chickenhawk, by Robert Mason; Vietnam Huey pilot story.
Legionnaire, by Simon Murray; an Englishman in the French Foreign Legion in Algeria, 1960s.
Eiger Dreams, by Jon Krakauer; a series of short mountaineering/climbing stories.
Touching The Void, by Joe Simpson; most people have heard of this one I think, since the film.
If they're the kind of things you like to read about, I highly recommend these.
Some new ones I haven't yet read:
Thin White Line, by Andy Cave; climbing/mountaineering.
Beyond The Mountain, by Steve House and Reinhold Messner; mountaineering.
Citadel: The Battle of Kursk, by Robin Cross; military history, the largest tank battle ever fought.
The First And The Last, by Adolf Galland; military history, Galland was one of Germany's top fighter aces during WW2.
Das Reich: The March of The 2nd SS Panzer Division, by Max Hastings; self explanatory. I have always found Hastings to be an excellent military history author.
In The Face of The Enemy, (A Battery Sergeant Major at war), by E. A. Powdrill; I confess, bought cos it was cheap, but sounds interesting - he fought in France in May 1940 to Dunkirk, and returned through Normandy in 1944.
As you'll have gathered, I'm a fan of military history (all periods), especially, but not exclusively, first-hand accounts from the battlefield. I also love good true-life adventure stuff, mountaineering, arctic/Antarctic travels and exploration etc. I love to read about people who put themselves through physical hardship, and how they cope with the situations they find themselves in, whether it be voluntarily, or forced upon them.
I always have a bit of a struggle to think of anything that I might like beyond these subjects, but at least there's always a lot to choose from here. Anything you can recommend? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I've always been a bit of a Stephen King fan actually, but haven't got around to the Dark Tower series yet. One of these days I will. I'm not really a great fan of horror generally though.
I'm not sure what else I'd go for fiction-wise. Whatever genre it was, it'd have to be well written, as the style is as important to me as the subject matter.
I think I might like some good "outlaw" tales; know of anything that might fit the bill? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Been wading my way through Stephen King's "Dreamcatcher", all a bit X-files so far.
I've recently re-read "Spycatcher", well worth a read if you haven't read it. Illustrates the shambolic machinations of the government and secret services of the time.
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Hmmm, not sure about SF. I don't know why, but I've always avoided it up til now. My only reading in the genre is H. G. Wells and Ray Bradbury, when I were't lad. If you had to pick just one SF book - or perhaps more realistically, one author - with a view to getting someone into the genre, what would you choose and why? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Two Le Carre books:
The Spy that Came in From the Cold
His first spy novel and one of my favourite thrillers ever. Lying, double crossing, killing and plotting at the height of the Cold War. Absolutely superb and still wins awards now, the pacing and detail is phenomenal. A must read if you're even vaguely interested in spy novels or thrillers in general.
A Delicate Truth
Le Carré's most recent. Mixed feelings about it, overall it was good. However I saw the ending coming a mile off and it was all too clear who the goodies and baddies were from the start. What was really good however was the insight into how private companies are taking over aspects of our national security and how secrets are for sale.
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Been caning the Kindle recently, picking up cheap books (not any free Gutenberg ones, as yet, though) ... but I found a fab new author called Louis Maistros, writing about New Orleans. His latest is called The Sound of Building Coffins. It was pretty good, mostly about "po black folks" in late 19th century New Orleans. Had a sort of enchanting quality though, building a bit of the magic and mystery of New Orleans into it, by implying the story was also about the birth of Jazz, with a sort of constant percussive tone popping up now and then throughout the story.
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Also, before that: Anarcho Grow, about an American guy growing weed in Costa Rica to support contras in Nicarag, but also how the CIA is on his tail. Pretty good, ending as to be expected.
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| chickenstrip wrote: | Hmmm, not sure about SF. I don't know why, but I've always avoided it up til now. My only reading in the genre is H. G. Wells and Ray Bradbury, when I were't lad. If you had to pick just one SF book - or perhaps more realistically, one author - with a view to getting someone into the genre, what would you choose and why? |
Since you're into your military writing, Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein may be of interest to you. It's about the training process more than warfare itself, and the whole thing is from the point of view of a single trooper. There's not much by way of ray gun space opera going on, which makes it a lot more accessible.
Alternately, Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks is also a good read - it focuses on a man who is a mercenary of sorts for a relatively pacifistic post-scarcity culture called, unambiguously, The Culture. This is a bit more of the magical technology end of the spectrum, although it's not overwhelmingly so (I have yet to find a Sci-Fi equivalent of Tom Clancy, thank invisible skywizard).
Douglas Adams' HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy is an exceptional piece of writing that is entirely centred around the absurdity of life and how one rather mundane Englishman endures it. It also extends itself out into a five-part trilogy which delivers such wonders as the ultimate answer, the ultimate question, and God's last message to his creation.
Any of those three should be a good start, I'd have thought.
As to what I've read recently, Gary Gibson's Shoal series is pretty good, although not of the same general stature as the books that I've previously written about. It does the whole 'artefacts left by extinct civilisations' thing rather well, but lacks a bit when it comes to character interplay.
I keep returning to Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space series, for reasons I can't quite place. It starts to rely heavily on handwavium-style technology for plot devices in the later books, and I typically abhor that sort of thing, but he does successfully evoke the feeling that the characters really don't get how this stuff works, and arbitrarily blow their own hands off using it at times.
I'm actually looking around for new authors at this point; Goodreads hasn't turned up anything new or interesting for me in a while. Known and favoured authors are: Iain M. Banks, Alastair Reynolds, William Gibson (definitely before his Blue Ant trilogy, though), Isaac Asimov, Charles Stross. Greg Bear is OK, although I've only read two of his books, and found them a little hard to engage with at times.
That's entirely off the top of my head of course; I can probably fire yes/no answers at authors as they're suggested to me. I'm actually wondering if this justifies a new thread at this point. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Chickenstrip: re: military history, the best military non fiction I've read this year was Churchill's Wizards. It's the story of the origins of deception, subterfuge, misdirection and camouflage since the beginning of the First World War. It's a little uneven but the detail fleshing out the people involved and their stories is great. ____________________ Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
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| Slacker24seven wrote: | Two Le Carre books:
The Spy that Came in From the Cold
His first spy novel and one of my favourite thrillers ever. Lying, double crossing, killing and plotting at the height of the Cold War. Absolutely superb and still wins awards now, the pacing and detail is phenomenal. A must read if you're even vaguely interested in spy novels or thrillers in general.
A Delicate Truth
Le Carré's most recent. Mixed feelings about it, overall it was good. However I saw the ending coming a mile off and it was all too clear who the goodies and baddies were from the start. What was really good however was the insight into how private companies are taking over aspects of our national security and how secrets are for sale.
Out of reading material now, will be making a trip to the library this week. |
I do have a few true spy stories in my collection, a subject that is fascinating. And I've kept meaning to try a couple of the more renowned authors of the fiction stuff.
Also went through a period of fascination for the Mafia, both in Sicily/Italy and America, so a fair few volumes on that. I think this came from watching too many Hollywood productions, and wanted to know the truth behind some of the stories on which their films were based.
I can see by the responses so far that I'm not going to be short of reading recommendations. Time to widen my reading horizons methinks. With winter approaching, this can only be a good thing  ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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| chickenstrip wrote: | If you had to pick just one SF book - or perhaps more realistically, one author - with a view to getting someone into the genre, what would you choose and why? |
SF has changed so often down the years that it's tricky to pick a single point of entry.
But as I have to (don't tasp me, bro) I'll go for the short story A Logic Named Joe by Murray Leinster (Will F. Jenkins).
Published in 1946, while everyone else was still writing about square jawed 'Murcans in rocketships ray-gunning Bug Eyed Commie Monsters then copping off with Martian princesses, Leinster predicted the home computer, the internets, and what real people would actually do with them. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| chickenstrip wrote: | Hmmm, not sure about SF. I don't know why, but I've always avoided it up til now. My only reading in the genre is H. G. Wells and Ray Bradbury, when I were't lad. If you had to pick just one SF book - or perhaps more realistically, one author - with a view to getting someone into the genre, what would you choose and why? |
Asimovs "The Last Question" did it for me, short story I chanced upon and had a "Whoa....." moment at the end of. The similarities between the iPhones "Siri" and the "Multivax" are not lost on me. Went on to Philip K. Dick after that. Not a huge fan of Sci-Fi in general but certainly like to dip my toe after that lot.
The Dark Tower is a good mix of wild west, hints of Sci-Fi, fantasy and horror. It's a bloody good read, the 4th book being my favourite I think, although there are certain aspects which I dislike and find ridiculous, but they can be forgiven on account of everything else being good. Well worth investing the time.
As for my reads of late:
1 - Game of Thrones: A feast for crows.
Most reviews I read about this said it was a snoozefest compared to the previous three. I quite enjoyed it, I don't mind if G.R.R.M takes some time setting up story, there's a shitload going on so naturally there's a lot to cover. I am going to avoid reading "Dance with dragons" until after the 5th series airs on TV - I found I couldn't quite enjoy the TV series as much since I knew everything that was going to happen, whereas I had watched all 3 seasons before I picked up the first book and it did nothing to stop my enjoyment of the first 4, so this seems to be the right way to go.
2 - Sex at Dawn by Dr Christopher Ryan
So this basically looks at sex and sexual behaviour from pre-history and between species up until present day, and how this might influence our current modern views on sex, with regards to monogamy, marriage, polygamy etc etc. Some very interesting viewpoints that make a lot of sense and certainly give some pause for thought.
The author has his own podcast called "Tangenitally Speaking", has a wide range of very interesting people on, and he's a wel travelled person himself so has a lot of his own storys that he throws into the conversation, over 100 hours and counting of some damn good stuff.
3 – You are not so smart by David McRaney
I came across the blog of the same name via stumbleupon ages ago and then forgot about it. I believe the book contains the same content (perhaps more). Looks into various aspects of human psychology, how the mind works, and why your brain is basically a bit of a cunt.
Currently reading: Food of the Gods by Terence Mckenna.
A look into how drugs have shaped human consciousness throughout history – one theory that Mckenna puts forward is that the consumption of psilocybin containing mushrooms by chimpanzees may have been responsible for the rapid increase in the human brain size over a short period of time comparative to other human development, and the development of consciousness as we know it. Its ok so far but he really goes overboard with the fancy descriptive language, a lot of the time its really unnecessary and I find myself thinking “...can you just get to the fucking point mate?”. Seems to have tapered off for now so continuing on with it.
I have a shit load of books lined up, currently titles are:
The War of Art
Big Pharma
Life on a Knife Edge
Hitchhikers Guide
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
Be Here Now
Cosmic Serpent
Wind Through The Keyhole
The Bhagavad Gita
48 Laws of Power
101 Truth
Immunity to Change
On the Beach
The Art of Learning
How Evolution Works
Mysterious Stranger
Electric Koolaid Acid Test
The World Without Us
What If? (xkcds' book)
Mushroom and The Sacred Cross
and pretty much anything by Sam Harris
So yeah.....quite a bit to work through... i'd better get started.
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I tend to read crime thrillers.
The last book I read was Relentless by Simon Kernick, and the next one 'waiting to be started' is The Crime Trade by the same author.
I buy most of my books from the British Lion's bookshop, so its usually pot-luck as to what I end up reading. But I've only been disappointed by one of my choices, so far so good.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
But as I have to (don't tasp me, bro) I'll go for the short story A Logic Named Joe by Murray Leinster (Will F. Jenkins).
Published in 1946, while everyone else was still writing about square jawed 'Murcans in rocketships ray-gunning Bug Eyed Commie Monsters then copping off with Martian princesses, Leinster predicted the home computer, the internets, and what real people would actually do with them. |
That was fucking brilliant, and incredible as you say given the date.
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| GhostRider wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: |
But as I have to (don't tasp me, bro) I'll go for the short story A Logic Named Joe by Murray Leinster (Will F. Jenkins).
Published in 1946, while everyone else was still writing about square jawed 'Murcans in rocketships ray-gunning Bug Eyed Commie Monsters then copping off with Martian princesses, Leinster predicted the home computer, the internets, and what real people would actually do with them. |
That was fucking brilliant, and incredible as you say given the date.
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Agreed, that I did enjoy; excellent start point Roger. Very insightful for it's time.
In a way, it mirrors what I like about some of Stephen King's stuff; the way he takes everyday recognisable things and corrupts them into something far more sinister. Although of course, in this case, what Murray Leinster takes and twists hadn't even been created when he wrote that. Which makes it even more remarkable in that it still resonates, and is very readable today.
Also much like King, he writes everyday, down-to-earth, believable characters well too; well, going by that example at least.
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The Dark Tower is a good mix of wild west, hints of Sci-Fi, fantasy and horror. It's a bloody good read, the 4th book being my favourite I think, although there are certain aspects which I dislike and find ridiculous, but they can be forgiven on account of everything else being good. Well worth investing the time.
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| Snipet wrote: | The 'Dark Tower' arn't horrors by any means, more of a story about a man trying to reach this dark tower.
And all the problems and experiences inbetween. I supose you could put it under an outlaw kind of genre.
Has some great story twists and turns, and a great one at the end. |
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | chickenstrip wrote: | As you'll have gathered, I'm a fan of military history (all periods), especially, but not exclusively, first-hand accounts from the battlefield. |
Have you read "Forgotten Voices"?
First hand accounts from WW1, some of it is very harrowing!
There is a WW2 book as well, not as good as thw WW1 version though, IMO. |
I've got "Forgotten Voices of The Falklands" which was quite good if I remember rightly. Been tempted by others in the series, and no doubt will succumb eventually.
Funnily enough, WW1 I haven't looked at, yet. I've tended to stick mostly with Napoleonic history, and then WW2 and after so far. And medieval history has caught my fascination recently too, especially the building of Britain - much influenced by Simon Schama's excellent BBC series here! I'll get there though, as first-hand accounts from the battlefields will fit in well with my fascination for how men endure such hardship and horror. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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