Bianchi Crash

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202528574325113

No wonder he is bad!
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What a miserable weekend in the F1 world, with Andrea de Cesaris dying in motorcycle accident as well.
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Wonder what 'G' that was?

Sickening impact, hope he's ok as the guy has a promising future, and don't want classic circuits like Suzuka to go but kinda expecting the inevitable witch hunt for someone or something.
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[Rogerborg]

There is a question of why they didn't safety car it. I expect those marshals might have some opinions on that as well.
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[JonB]

Interesting blog by former F1 doctor. Not only on the injury sustained, but why he feels drivers have been pushing the boundaries with respect to the flag rules. Double waved yellows mean be prepared to stop. Judging by the fact Bianchi aquaplaned and the sheer speed he hit the tractor, I'm not sure it was being adhered to well.

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It doesn't look good for Bianchi. 90% of people with this injury never regain consciousness. Sad time for F1.
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Not sure if this is true but I saw somewhere he was driven to hospital as oppose to being flown because the chopper couldn't take off due to the weather, surely the organisers have got to be red flagging this race long before this happened if the chopper can't take off on safety grounds...

It's exactly what they do in moto gp so why not in F1?? I've heard various wrangles of pressure from the japs to keep the race going as u don't alter plans in japan apparently, I mean wtf next lol

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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Ugly crash. A pity it had to occur at Suzuka, as with the Kato death 10 years ago, I wonder if serious questions will be asked of the circuit should the worst happen.
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[HotdogMcDraw]

Feel sorry for the guy, no doubt there will be more safety measures in place to make the sport even more boring, they signed up to take a risk at the end of the day, hope he makes a good recovery.

Imagine how boring TT and other road races would be if it was made safer every time someone had a serious or fatal accident, they take a risk and they love it, F1 is nothing like it used to be.
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[swampy]

To put things in a bit of perspective re safety etc. I work with probably 20-30 people with this type of injury a year. The reasons for their injuries are varied, but the most common in my experience(more common even than car/bike crashes) is falling down the stairs...

I think that we (and the FIA) need to realise that risk of injury is an inevitable side effect of driving a car at 200mph, and that Bianchi was just as likely to receive the same injury falling down the stairs of the motor home...
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[Skudd]

IIRC Massa had a nasty head injury from a spring flying off the car in front of him. He was touch and go at the time, but is ok now accept for that silly accent and lisp.
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[Carl_steveo]

That footage has been zoomed in. When it's not zoomed in you can see a tower to the right where a yellow flag is waved for about five seconds. Followed by some fucker waving a green flag like he's at a rave and he's dropped six E's.

liveleak link.

According to a comment on the video though.

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[Llama-Farmer]

I hope and pray he makes a meaningful recovery. And Michael Schumacher too, both very similar injuries and very similar long-term recovery processes.


I have three particular thoughts about this though.

1 - Driver's flag discipline is absolutely atrocious, and the fact the FIA take no action only reinforces the drivers lack of respect for the flags. Double waved yellows means PEOPLE ON THE TRACK, slow down and be prepared to stop. That means be able to stop in the distance you can see to be safe/clear, something we're all familiar with, or should be. There is absolutely no way Jules Bianchi was going slow enough to stop even if he had stayed on the track. But the FIA need to take action, because these guys are racers and slowing down in a race is a disadvantage to them and an advantage to their competitors, so a mandatory safety car if there are personnel or heavy machinery on the track is needed imo.

2 - Ayrton Senna, killed by a single blow to the head from a suspension piece. Henry Surtees, killed by a single blow to the head from a loose wheel. Maria De Vilotta, eventually died from injuries sustained after a blow to the head in a relatively low-speed accident. Felipe Massa, seriously injured by a single blow to the head from a loose coil spring. Fernando Alonso, Spa 2012, very nearly suffered a blow to the head in first corner crash, only avoided by sheer miraculous luck.
Jules Bianchi, long term remains to be seen, seemingly suffered only a blow to the head. The survival cell of a modern formula one car is incredibly strong, so much so that we just don't see injuries to drivers bodies anymore from crashes that in the recent past would absolutely have been fatal. But the drivers head is still incredibly vulnerable. The last vulnerable part.

3 - The last wet race at Suzuka, 1994, there was an accident at that very corner. Then a lap or two later, Martin Brundle aquaplaned off and barely missed the recovery tractor. He said years afterwards he thought he was going to hit it, and he was going to be killed. He probably would have been too, but luckily he missed it. Unfortunately he hit a marshal and badly broke their leg. So the last wet race at Suzuka there was a carbon copy accident, nearly identical. Same circumstances, same corner. There but for the grace of God. So so many variables that needed to fall into place for Jules' accident to happen. But so many variables that were KNOWN in advance, because they have happened before at other races in the wet, and specifically at a previous Japanese GP at that very corner.

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