Permanent seal for a pinlock

[Davenaylor]

Just looking for a what would do here.

Situation is I have an HJC RPHA10+ its a lovely lid apart from one problem, the pinlock doesn't make a complete seal on the visor and so I get misting during the winter.
I have changed the visor after complaining to lids direct and bought I new pinlock. Still no joy.
Last winter I bought a cheap box lid with a built in sun visor and pinlock. This worked fine but was a little big and I don't want to wear it this year.

Choices

I can spend some dollar on a winter lid again and get one that fits.

Or I was thinking about using some silicone seal on the pinlock against the visor to try and seal whatever gap there is.
I have a spare visor if this goes Pete tong but I'm not sure if silicone and the visor will mix.

Looking for advice really.

Thanks.

[Val]

something is wrong with your visor or with pinlock insert or you do not apply it properly.

You cannot seal pinlock it has been designed to be selfsealed on application.

The easiest way to fix this is you go to the nearest gear shop, buy new pinlock insert from them and ask them to fit it for you.

Problem solved

At least that is what I do with pinlocks or you can spend few days trying to fit bloody thing good luck with that

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[Minty]

Have you Twisted the nubs 180 degrees to narrow the distance between them? They are shaped like cams for this purpose.
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[wristjob]

if it dosnt seal then its not fitted correctly.

[Davenaylor]

I have had 2 pi locks and two visors on this lid. I've adjusted the Knubs to make it wider and thinner. It can't be the futting if both visors have the issue. I've not had any trouble fitting them in the past so I don't think it's me!

I just thought by re enforcing the sealing already there it might solve the issue.

[Ballpien]

I'm not saying it's poorly fitted but...
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[Nick 50]

You could try Raleri, can't say i've tried there products but recently came across them as a Pinlock alternative as my lid doesn't have pinlock.

Edit* Have just ordered one, will update when it comes and how it performs.

And will chunk in an MCN Review:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/products/productsresults/parts-accessories/2012/may/may1112-raleri-pc-fogstop-visor-insert/

the price is for a vented one like for an Arai. Mine was £23 for the photo-voltaic one, the standard clear ones are £15'ish, so cheaper than Pinlock too.
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[TallPaul_S]

Never had an issue with my 2 pinlock'ed visors, a few weeks back (after being on for 5 months) they started to fog up about a cm inside the insert in one area - a quick adjustment on the pins and they're good as gold, and I've ridden in some truly awful weather the last week - zero misting, with every vent closed.

If it's misting up, it's not fitted right/is the wrong insert for your visor.
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[Llama-Farmer]

[_Iain_]

Will be either;

Pin rotation
Fitted upside down
Damaging the pinlocks fitting points whilst fitting it.
Or you're using the wrong pinlock for that visor.

Thats literally all it can be, I've fitted hundreds. Not joking, or bigging it up, everytime I sell a lid with pinlock I fit it prior to sale for the guy - if you were closer I'd be more than happy to take a look!
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[talkToTheHat]

It's quite easy to get a pinlock at the wrong angle (tilted up or down) on older hjc visor designs. Took some careful practice to get it fitted correctly on my fg-15, and then any riding with the visor open would break the seal, so I rode with the visor closed all the time. Not a problem for the visor as that didn't fog, but glasses streamed up, so fitted a foggy mask. Any carrying of pinlocked visor as a spare would break the seal, so swapping from smoke to clear and a pinlock in the rain would often result water collecting between pinlock and visor. Not tried the newer hjc helmets as the head shape appears to have changed.

My shark speed r has a recess for the pinlock so it can't go in at the wrong angle, it also has a visor that is either up and loose or locked closed so securely it takes a feat of dexterity to open. Still use a foggy mask.
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[c_dug]

I've struggled with mine too. And considered silicone as a permanent seal. Got mine sealed in the end by rotating the pins, took lots of fiddling though.
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[Rogerborg]

[STONEY!]

Is it a genuine pinlock insert fitted to a genuine pinlock visor? As with lain I have fitted 100's of these and its never taken more than a couple of minutes to have them in perfectly even taking time to adjust the pins.

My current shoei has had the same pinlock and visor for 5 years and 50,000+ miles never failed, still looks like new and I have taken it in and out many times to clean etc usually using soapy water or if im feeling posh some shift-it visor cleaner!

[ukdiceman]

I have an HJC IS-17 which is a year old, when I bought it I asked the shop to fit the pinlock..... I've had had no issues so far as I approach my second winter.

Suspect its not fitted correctly as others have said.
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[jeddy11]

I found when i had pinlock fitted to my helmet (myself) with the template and drills etc it wasn't quite right and no end of fiddling about with it wouldn't cure it..

I had to elongate one of the holes and use a little superglue for the pin but that few mm made the difference between it sealing and not.

So don't give up and spend more money a little bodgery will fix it
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[Davenaylor]

OK,

I'll spend some quality time with the visor, the pinlock and my soldering iron!

Thanks for stopping me pressing buy it now!

[Minty]

[Val]

[barrkel]

I've never had a good seal between the visor on my C3 and the pinlock.

That's with three separate visors and pinlocks. The first I installed myself, the second two installed by the people who sold me the visors (I buy a new visor + pinlock every year).

It's always the same. The pinlock is wedged in slightly too tight on one side, and slightly too loose on the other. The side that's slightly too loose always has a slight gap in the seal near the pin. I've tried rotating the pins in almost every configuration possible, to the point that the pins don't fit that well in the holes any more. When the pins are rotated to make the seal tight enough to avoid leaks, the pinlock is so tight it's actually touching the visor, and has this big "pool" effect where the two are in contact. And of course, it's no longer actually double-glazed then.

Moreover, the tension in the pinlock actually deforms the C3's visor enough that it has a slight gap at the bottom when closed (noticeable as a draught), and it cracks open when doing shoulder checks at speeds in excess of 60mph. Without a pinlock installed, it doesn't open in the same situation.

I'd rather have a visor with a manufacturer-created double-glazed feature. I never put a new pinlock on an old visor, so the modularity of a removable pinlock is not a benefit.

The pinlock still mostly works. It's only in extreme conditions that condensation comes in the side.
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[Commuter_Tim]

[nelmo]

Have you looked at a Fog City?

I used to use them before I had a pinlock and they were excellent. It's basically the same thing, a separate inner visor but the difference is that it has a glued edge which makes a permanent seal.

They always lasted as long as the visor itself and they do them for all helmets, even those with a pinlock (they come with a cut-out to go round the pins). Recommended.
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