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Hammerstrike
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Newbie: DIY tips pls Reply with quote

Hello,

Passed CBT recently and have a Hyosung GT 125. Aware it isnt everyone's dream bike but is decent and runs well for me.

I want to learn some basic DIY stuff so that I don't have to go to a garage for everything. Some of the stuff I wanted to ask was:

A)How often do I need to service the bike? I ride 70 miles a day 3-4 times a week so 300 miles a week approx.
B) How often should I change/fill the oil. Which Oil should I use for my bike?

anything else that could be done at home with not too much fuss.

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PostPosted: 18:12 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a brand new bike? If so follow the manufacturer's interval's, if not and it's got over 500 miles on it then I personally wouldn't let it go over 3000 miles between oil changes - especially as it's made of Chinese cheese Wink

Change the filter at least every other time or every time you change the oil to be on the safe side.

Clean and oil the chain weekly, check chain tension at the same time.

Clean it weekly and check tyre pressures and tyre condition at the same time.

This is the minimum I'd be looking at if you're doing over 300miles a week, especially once the winter weather hits.

EDIT: Oil is a matter of preference. Find out the manufacturer's recommended grade and use that. Some people are cheapskates and use the cheapest stuff they can find, I'm an oil snob and only use Silkolene.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
especially as it's made of Chinese cheese Wink
Korean. Significant difference.

Stick to the recommended service intervals as best you can, and don't be afraid to ask how to do things when it comes to swinging a spanner at the bike.

Oil doesn't need to be top-branded stuff: I use the large barrels of oil from Costco, and I've had no problems. That's been in both brand new bikes, and thirty-year-old ones, with no ill effects.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note, there is no need to necessarily purchase a huge toolset. It's nice to always have the right tool when you need it, but you don't actually need that many.

If you buy a few tools of good quality, it'll likely serve you better than an entire toolset of cheese.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some specs here
https://www.motorbikespecs.net/index.dyn/contact.dyn?flag=2&model_id=5835950&make=Hyosung

Personally I'd fit Irridium plugs
Must haves (IMO)
Buy a digital meter they start at £2.99 but would suggest getting
something a bit better if you can afford it.
Plug spanner
Buy decent quality tools you'll actually need/use to service the bike
rather than a shit load of cheap crap.
I couid probably fit the most used tools on my bike in my pocket

Like most other jobs, swapping plugs and oil changes involves threads
but these two jobs have caught out a few newbies who have cross threaded
or stripped threads in alloy which can turn a 10 minute job into an expensive nightmare.
Not sure of your mechanical abilty but it pays to RTFM at times
or as you doing here, ask for advice prior to spannering.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd do oil monthly but thats me, Tesco 10w40 etc.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, not Chinese!!!
As for the service arrangements which bit of the info did you find confusing Mr Borg???
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

70 miles a day on a 125? Fuuuuuck.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 10 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pdf of the service manual for the gt125/gt250 is available for download,.
If you have any hassle getting the right version drop me a pm.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the service manual here and do all the maintainance recomended there:

https://files.hyosungmotorsusa.com/GT125_250_Service_Manual.pdf

It says oil and filter change every 4000 km = 2500 miles. Do that.

I know somebody here say use cheap oil. Do not. Engine is expensive. 1.5L Oil is cheap even if you by quality oil. For you that means you will pay say for 2500 miles for two months ride 1.5L quality oil X £9 = £13.50 if you buy cheap rubbish oil you pay 1.5 X £6 = £9 total.

You save about £4.50 really?

Given the fact that this oil lubricates the clutch too, I'd prefer the best quality ester oil like:

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-912-motul-7100-4t-10w-40-high-performance-lubricant-for-bikes-100-synthetic-ester.aspx
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PostPosted: 04:31 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
For you that means you will pay say for 2500 miles for two months ride 1.5L quality oil X £9 = £13.50 if you buy cheap rubbish oil you pay 1.5 X £6 = £9 total.

You save about £4.50 really?


Yet you link to a oil that costs £11.99 a Ltr.... Rolling Eyes So that throws your maths right out of the window....

I get Asda's own brand semi sync @ £16.00 for 5 ltr. (often on offer for £10)
So you pay 5 *11.99 = £59.95.
which with my maths is a saving of £43.95.... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 05:32 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:

I know somebody here say use cheap oil. Do not.


Always used Wilkinsons cheapest 10W40....... my bike no explode yet
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PostPosted: 07:07 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me see. Overpriced oil from that Opie site, or 20litres from Costco for ~£40. Given that the costco oil is significantly cheaper, and (insofar as I'm aware) meets the necessary spec, I'm waiting to hear why I'm so very wrong, valko?
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PostPosted: 07:09 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07:11 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome stuff guys. Few more questions based on ur comments. Havent cleaned and oiled my chain since i bought it(6 weeks). Luckily went to a garage who did it while tighting the chain 2 weeks ago. Do i need to buy greese for it? and just give the chain a wipe..
need to you tube how to change oils.
how often u check ur spark plugs?

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PostPosted: 07:35 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of your questions could be answered by a manual. Oil change is different for each bike. How long a spark plug last can depend on what type of plug it has.

For tools wait till halfords do a sale and you can get a good set for about £100 get the proffesional life time guarantee range.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hammerstrike wrote:
Do i need to buy greese for it? and just give the chain a wipe..

You use oil on a chain, not grease. Grease has a habit of trapping particles and forming an abrasive paste. It's only really used in places that are relatively sealed, or aren't prone to lots of regular high-speed movement.

Get a copy of the service manual, and have a look through it for the service schedule.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 11 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
Let me see. Overpriced oil from that Opie site, or 20litres from Costco for ~£40. Given that the costco oil is significantly cheaper, and (insofar as I'm aware) meets the necessary spec, I'm waiting to hear why I'm so very wrong, valko?


I too am interested.

It reaches the specifications required to be put in 95% of bikes, do tell me how my 77,000 mile Varadero didn't explode with the cheapest oil known to man.

My 4l of oil is ~£10.

I change oil in 125s at around 1000 miles, month of commuting really. Makes it £2.50 per change and about 15 minutes tops.
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