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PostPosted: 00:48 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Wet weather touring Reply with quote

I've just returned from 2 days and 414 very soggy miles going from London to Ypres and back via the Somme, and I can now comment on what I've used. It will probably be of little interest to experienced tourers here, but hey, gear changes and sometimes it's nice to know about other stuff (though a lot of mine is quite old, hmmm). Bike was CBR600F

AlpineStars Drystar Andes jacket n pants. Very good value for money and mostly kept the driving rain out. Other than a little bit down the zip on the front of the jacket, which got wet (and the wrists a bit) I was dry and WARM. Versatile kit, looks good, pretty cheap and I look fwd to using it more. Fitting not amazing though - medium pants just fit me, small are tiny. Small jacket fits but is tight, but medium too baggy. Trousers come with braces (fancy) and jacket base zip comes with another bit that marries to it that you can stitch to any pants you want. EXTERNAL POCKETS ARE NOT WATERPROOF!!!My wallet, phones and passport will attest.

Oxford panniers (old but barely used). Hmmm what are these very useful waterproof outers that you can fit round each pannier? Oh in fact they are things which allow water to pool inside and sit at the bottom of the pannier!! Other than the disastrous waterproof cases, the panniers held up better than expected and things were mostly dry. A few drybags and no outers next time and golden.

Richa gloves - picked up at brands hatch, quite the surprise, held up brilliantly until towards the very end. Throw water at anything at 70mph and eventually it'll give. Lots of on/off action at toll booths / chunnel didn't help. Bring spare gloves!! (The Weises fared well on the final soggy stretch to London)

Buffalo waterproof jacket - very bulky, partly due to it's hood in the collar (??) but again, picked up at a race track, expected to be rubbish, but brill. warm and dry and went over the backpack at a pinch as well.

Peter Storm waterproof pants. Pick up for tuppence at millets, roll up tiny, keep water out. Great.

Oxford Hot Grips - saved my life! Love them. And thanks so much to the guys at Southern Cross Motorcycles for fitting them and doing it at short notice.

Double bubble (Powerbronze) - get one

Sidi boots - kept my feet dry until the last 50 odd miles. 8 yrs old. love them, old friends. Need to replace now as no grip left on sole - embarrassing f**k up pulling out of petrol station, foot slips off peg and almost run into the kerb. Any recommendations?

Powerbronze hugger - worth it with all the farming and muck on the road in north east France and Belgium

Anyway, not without faults but kept me fairly warm and dry meaning I could come back less exhausted and grumpy after the wet dark M20

Final tip - do bring a spare bulb. Mine went in France. Whole trip back to London done on high beams.

Didn't really think the CBR would be a competent sports tourer, and have always planned to get a sprint, but might feel otherwise now
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure you can still buy soles for Sidi boots.

I put my phone and wallet in a sandwich bag before they go in my pocket in the rain, never known pockets to keep water out long term.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Wet weather touring Reply with quote

TCFA wrote:
...Oxford panniers...


Can be the same with tank bags that have a waterproof cover. OK in a light shower but sustained riding in heavy rain they just turn into a water trap.
Cheaper solution to dry bags are those heavy duty garden waste bags you may have kicking around in the shed with the top rolled a few times.
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Wet weather touring Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
TCFA wrote:
...Oxford panniers...
Cheaper solution to dry bags are those heavy duty garden waste bags you may have kicking around in the shed with the top rolled a few times.


Agreed, something more heavy duty does the job nicely. I use these to line my oxford soft panniers exactly how you described:

https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Heavy-Duty-Rubble-Sacks-Pack-of-10/p/152889

https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/cruxiform/Germany%202014/20140826_123325.jpg

6 hours of torrential rain from Germany to Calais. Everything inside bone dry.

EDIT: Seems they're crap at holding rubble though, according to the reviews Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

well there goes my side line in rubble collection

Thanks for the advice folks

Already planning next big trips (though maybe in better weather)
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got the Alpinestars andes jacket and trousers... Good to know they hold up in the weather. Will just have to get a cheap waterproof oversuit for peace of mind.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap drybags are only a fiver on ebay. Why would you mess around with bin bags to save so little cash
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take one heavy duty rubble sack , cut out a neck hole in the bottom and two arm holes at the sides and there you go, an undercoat waterproof liner Thumbs Up

Next time I go to Scottyland , I`m going to pack one in my kit.
It ALWAYS rains when I go to Scotland Sad Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 03 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Take one heavy duty rubble sack , cut out a neck hole in the bottom and two arm holes at the sides and there you go, an undercoat waterproof liner Thumbs Up

Next time I go to Scottyland , I`m going to pack one in my kit.
It ALWAYS rains when I go to Scotland Sad Laughing

hope your not going end of may 2015 Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 03 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know about the Alpinestars kit... I've been looking at some new textiles and had been considering them, and thinking of the RST Adventure II kit too.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 04 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="DB1965"[/quote]
hope your not going end of may 2015 Laughing[/quote]


Well I might, just to rain on your parade Thumbs Up Laughing



No , I`m giving Scottyland a miss this year Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 04 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
I put my phone and wallet in a sandwich bag before they go in my pocket in the rain, never known pockets to keep water out long term.
This always this.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
Cheap drybags are only a fiver on ebay. Why would you mess around with bin bags to save so little cash


Anybody have a link to these fiver drybags, I'm needing one to cover a 40 litre rucksack.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:

Anybody have a link to these fiver drybags, I'm needing one to cover a 40 litre rucksack.


You'll be lucky!!! Drybags that cheap are small (and the usual trick is to put items into drybags then put said drybags into your rucksack)
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:
Northern Monkey wrote:
Cheap drybags are only a fiver on ebay. Why would you mess around with bin bags to save so little cash


Anybody have a link to these fiver drybags, I'm needing one to cover a 40 litre rucksack.

try LOMO drybags https://www.ewetsuits.com/acatalog/Dry-Boxes-dry-bags-uk.html
Not exactly £5 but still cheap and very durable
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big problem I have in the wet is that when I'm on the bike there is a gap between the top of my boots and the leg of my waterproofs. Result is a boot full of water.
Need longer waterproofs, despite being only a 32" inside leg.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

alan29 wrote:
Big problem I have in the wet is that when I'm on the bike there is a gap between the top of my boots and the leg of my waterproofs. Result is a boot full of water.
Need longer waterproofs, despite being only a 32" inside leg.


Or you could wear a pair of these over your boots and under your leggings. (Bit of a kitting up ballache but hey...dry feet)
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
alan29 wrote:
Big problem I have in the wet is that when I'm on the bike there is a gap between the top of my boots and the leg of my waterproofs. Result is a boot full of water.
Need longer waterproofs, despite being only a 32" inside leg.


Or you could wear a pair of these over your boots and under your leggings. (Bit of a kitting up ballache but hey...dry feet)


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PostPosted: 16:45 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lomo also make drysuits for canoeing.

I garauntee the only bits you'll get wet in one of those is your hands and your head.

I'm giving serious consideration to taking my surface drysuit to the Dragon rally this year after the rain we had last time.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
delsol wrote:

Anybody have a link to these fiver drybags, I'm needing one to cover a 40 litre rucksack.


You'll be lucky!!! Drybags that cheap are small (and the usual trick is to put items into drybags then put said drybags into your rucksack)


No idea how good mentalboy, but at this price I'm gonna try it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-20L-40L-70L-Waterproof-Dry-Bag-for-Canoe-Hiking-Kayak-3-Color-Useful-/251564939350?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Canoeing_Kayaking_ET&var=&hash=item3a92705856
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:


Let us know what they're like.
I usually keep my eye on places like Mountain Hardware, as they often sell dry bags off cheap.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
delsol wrote:


Let us know what they're like.
I usually keep my eye on places like Mountain Hardware, as they often sell dry bags off cheap.


Wilco, let's see what turns up.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Lomo also make drysuits for canoeing.

I garauntee the only bits you'll get wet in one of those is your hands and your head.

I'm giving serious consideration to taking my surface drysuit to the Dragon rally this year after the rain we had last time.


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PostPosted: 21:31 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
delsol wrote:

Anybody have a link to these fiver drybags, I'm needing one to cover a 40 litre rucksack.


You'll be lucky!!! Drybags that cheap are small (and the usual trick is to put items into drybags then put said drybags into your rucksack)


28L for £7 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201091647498

you put the dry bags in your rucksack, not your rucksack in the drybag.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:

you put the dry bags in your rucksack, not your rucksack in the drybag.


Usually the way as mentalboy said too, but I have a specific reason for covering the rucksack lads, keeping the shit off it so I can carry it into some fussy places.

A bare rucksack strapped to the pillion can get really grotty and really quick.
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