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PostPosted: 11:10 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Fire "drills" Reply with quote

We just had a Fire drill in the school. Now, could someone let me know why they tell everybody the day before, the exact time the fire alarm is going to go off?

They have a target time that everyone should be out in, but surely telling everybody "have your coat on and be ready to leave at 11.55" isn't a good way to measure this?

I left a few minutes earlier and went to Tesco for some food and as I got back, people were being let in - magic!
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Fire "drills" Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
could someone let me know why they tell everybody the day before, the exact time the fire alarm is going to go off?

Because box ticking idiots like ticking boxes.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite often get asked to set fire alarms off for fire drills ( I'm a fire alarm engineer/technician). It's amazing how many people will go and get a drink/use the toilet/finish updating their facebook status before they actually leave. at least if they know it's going to happen, they can get a drinnk ready before they have to go out.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Fire "drills" Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
We just had a Fire drill in the school. Now, could someone let me know why they tell everybody the day before, the exact time the fire alarm is going to go off?

They have a target time that everyone should be out in, but surely telling everybody "have your coat on and be ready to leave at 11.55" isn't a good way to measure this?

I left a few minutes earlier and went to Tesco for some food and as I got back, people were being let in - magic!


Because if anyone got injured in the panic thinking it was a real fire, they could sue the school.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleep through fire drill at boarding school = win.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Fire "drills" Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
...They have a target time that everyone should be out in, but surely ...telling everybody "have your coat on and be ready to leave at 11.55" isn't a good way to measure this?...

Why isn't it good?
I'm sure extra brownie points and cookies will be given for meeting that target.
Or at least no-one will be bollocked for not meeting it, which is how it appears management works.

So it'll be good that they get below the target time. Kicker is if someone then reduces the target time because of it so it does actually become unrealistic.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

By school, I meant a School at a Uni.

So we're all adults here. I suppose the notice is for people who may have guests and showing them around and what not. But to tell everyone - apart from the undergrads, they're going to have a scheduled surprise test - it's useless.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Fire "drills" Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
...surely telling everybody "have your coat on and be ready to leave at 11.55" isn't a good way to measure this?


So long as they can give this level of notice for a real fire, you're golden. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

we had a fire at my school, we laughed at the teacher who came running across the field with a fire extinguisher and turned tale as the hut reached flash point, and then booed the fire brigade when they turned up

we all got lectured about the perils to firemen of bunking off school, when someone was reported missing, it turned out he'd broken his arm playing rugby, and was fobbed off by the school nurse as a time waster, and took himself off down to casualty to get it treated

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PostPosted: 12:47 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been shown the series of global emails that went out to the computing science departmentwhen the Edinburgh University computing science building caught fire (which eventually took out a 7 storey block of buildings on the Cowgate/South bridge and took out a cray supercomputer).

They were increasingly frantic along the lines of "Guys, we can see you on the CCTV, the fire alarm is going off for a reason, the building IS on fire and it's got the the second floor now. You need to leave the building immediately!". Then "This really is not a drill. I can't believe you're still sat there ignoring this. THE BUILDING IS ON FIRE! I'm cutting the power in 30 seconds.".

Mind you, the university lot had some funny ideas about fire drills. They did an unannounced drill at my halls of residence. I duly appeared at the exit carrying a fire extinguisher which I had picked up from my third floor corridoor and left it at the entrance. They started bawling me out about how I was in trouble for "Interfering with firefighting equipment.". This is while the fire alarm was literally (in the literal sense) still going off. We had a heated discussion on the merits of picking up and carrying a fire extinguisher with you when attempting to exit a building via six flights of stairs and three corridoors in the case of a fire until they admitted they were wrong. As I recall I lead with "Don't be so fucking stupid.".

I keep it simple at work. Our fire briefing has only three things you have to do in case of a fire. 1) Raise the alarm. 2) Exit the building. 3) Assemble in the car park. I elaborate that 1) Is achieved by either hitting a break-glass or shouting "Fire-Fire!" and calling the fire brigade. I also stress that fire extinguishers are only present to facilitate part 2 and are more useful for breaking windows than putting out fires.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
They did an unannounced drill at my halls of residence. I duly appeared at the exit carrying a fire extinguisher which I had picked up from my third floor corridoor and left it at the entrance. They started bawling me out about how I was in trouble for "Interfering with firefighting equipment.".

A fire extinguisher can perhaps put out a burning wastepaper bin, if you catch it just as it ignites.

What were you intending to do with it after the fire had got to the point of setting off an alarm? Thinking


stinkwheel wrote:
I also stress that fire extinguishers are only present to facilitate part 2 and are more useful for breaking windows than putting out fires.

...oh, OK, that.

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PostPosted: 14:31 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked in a door factory once.

Fire safety briefing went like this

1, there are exits everywhere, when you move onto a work station check where the nearest is.

2, if the fire alarm goes off, get out. You are in a door factory surrounded by wood and glue, it will go up and quickly. If you wish to grab a fire extinguisher you can, but it's weight might slow you down
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-.. wrote:
I worked in a door factory once.

Fire safety briefing went like this

1, there are exits everywhere, when you move onto a work station check where the nearest is.

2, if the fire alarm goes off, get out. You are in a door factory surrounded by wood and glue, it will go up and quickly. If you wish to grab a fire extinguisher you can, but it's weight might slow you down


I can imagine, in the hysteria, people walking through doors that were in a frame for testing haha. It'd be the worst horror film in the world!
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They used to do them weekly at my old work
Which lead to everyone ignoring it when it was a genuine alarm activation.

Desensitization Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, yeah, I remember my colleagues who had the role of Fire Officer at the then Department of Social Security

what did their job entail, getting people out safely? Directing people at assembly points?

no, their job was to go further into the building locking windows and shutters, and making sue cash drawers were closed, and giros were locked up
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
They used to do them weekly at my old work
Which lead to everyone ignoring it when it was a genuine alarm activation.

Desensitization Rolling Eyes

In our last office it was the Friday alarm. Now it's the Tuesday alarm.

When we have a genuine fire drill we just sit there and wait to see who's going to be the first to get up and walk out.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone knows that real fires are planned well in advance Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh I remember the time when my school got a bomb threat from a sixthformer who did it just for the lulz.

Literally standing in the year 10 playground watching bomb squad drive past into the main entrance. We all got to go home because they said in order to give the place the all clear, searching would take all day.

Never saw said sixthformer ever again though after that.

This thread reminded me of it because we always went up to the year 10 playground and took registration there when there was a fire drill.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Used to be a fire marshal where I used to work. At least meant I was one of the last ones out so had to spend less time standing in the cold Laughing .

We were pretty much never told about fire drills in advance. The exception was when they wanted a victim for the escape chair. As the one disabled person wasn't keen they needed a volunteer. Easy way down the stairs and a nice change for the day.

That said for ages we had loads of fire alarms. Think they had a severely over sensitive sensor in the room that held the batteries for the UPS, and even a bit of dust just outside the building could set it off.

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PostPosted: 18:47 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Fire "drills" Reply with quote

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which, so far as taking the biscuit goes,
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember back when I was doing voluntary work and was going through the obligatory H&S session at the Wheels project in Bristol with the young people.

We were by the pa rrafin cleaner and the instructor said 'Now, if this thing goes up, get the fuck out of the builiding as fast as you can if you able to do so. Don't worry about trying to warn anybody else about the fire, the explosion and subsequent ball of fire rising up above the remains of the roof will make it patently obvious....'
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:

I can imagine, in the hysteria, people walking through doors that were in a frame for testing haha. It'd be the worst horror film in the world!


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PostPosted: 20:51 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do a fire drill in my house once a year



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PostPosted: 21:00 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was at school, they used to do fire drills as a punishment. Laughing
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