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Screen space/resolution? A higher res is more screen space but we won't argue I'd still go for the older 17". Always liked a bigger screen/cheaper model. And macs tend to keep up spec wise, iv never done proper photo editing though. |
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Avoid the nvidia based 17" MBPs like the plague, absolute time bombs, they will fail, and replacing the logic board is a waste of money.
The end of line AMD based ones were dependable, but were never that well optimised due to being a short lived product.
Vs a rMBP 15", Retinas are 'zippier' and more responsive and Yosemite really rewards the quick IO on the latest macs. Personally I feel the extra pixel density easily overcomes the downgrade in size. They don't do a 17" as it's simply not needed imo.
The 17"s strength is of course the upgradability and having two drive bays on hand.
My opinion? Unless it's living on a desk and never moving, rMBP all the way, if it's never going to leave the house, an iMac would be a better purchase. The 17"s were supreme 5 years ago, but they are just too awkward and fragile compared to modern ultrabooks.
Just remember that the ram isn't upgradable down the line on the retina machines so as noted above, prioritise that over getting a bigger SSD. ____________________ 2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST |
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Seb wrote: | Avoid the nvidia based 17" MBPs like the plague, absolute time bombs, they will fail, and replacing the logic board is a waste of money.
The end of line AMD based ones were dependable, but were never that well optimised due to being a short lived product.
Vs a rMBP 15", Retinas are 'zippier' and more responsive and Yosemite really rewards the quick IO on the latest macs. Personally I feel the extra pixel density easily overcomes the downgrade in size. They don't do a 17" as it's simply not needed imo.
The 17"s strength is of course the upgradability and having two drive bays on hand.
My opinion? Unless it's living on a desk and never moving, rMBP all the way, if it's never going to leave the house, an iMac would be a better purchase. The 17"s were supreme 5 years ago, but they are just too awkward and fragile compared to modern ultrabooks.
Just remember that the ram isn't upgradable down the line on the retina machines so as noted above, prioritise that over getting a bigger SSD. |
This was a factor, if I go for the mbpr it would be the 512gb ssd with 16gb ram as not upgradeable (hopefully that would last me a couple of years before being to sluggish for whatever i'm using then)
Yes there is a slight cost bump but this is a working machine so will be deductible.
Do you think the 2.5ghz mbpr will be noticeably zippier than the 2.8ghz iMac it's replacing?
The whole point of this change is additional portability, as said they will be hooked up to screens a lot of the time but will also be worked on out and about - that said it needs to cope with workloads, main use is lightroom/photoshop/photo mechanic/indesign/autopano but at the same time as using them I usually have mail/safari/messenger open too. ____________________ Past -Honda qr50 | 2004 Peugeot Tkr s 50| | 1996 Yamaha XJ600s Diversion|| 2005|Kawasaki Z750s | | 2006 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer |
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_Will_ wrote: | will get another display for home and use the one computer for both.
So that's the preface, now my choices and deliberation, do I go for a slightly older (2011) 17" iMac and pimp to spec (ram/ssd) |
Im using an i7 MBP from 2010, with an SSD and its plenty quick enough for retouching. I use Adobe CC and its very responsive. I generally have a lot of tabs open and I never have slowdown.
Also, for retouching the screen packs in a lot of detail and colours are excellent, even though its not a retina. Not ideal to be doing extended work on a small laptop screen though.
For home invest in a decent monitor, not sure what your budget is but something like:
27"
https://www.ebuyer.com/428184-dell-ultrasharp-u2713hm-27-led-hdmi-monitor-u2713hm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=CNGH3du4xcECFSPItAodU3wAEA
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Acer K272HUL
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Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24 inch LCD TFT Monitor (16:10, 1920x1200, 300 cd/m2)
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dangerousdave wrote: | _Will_ wrote: | will get another display for home and use the one computer for both.
So that's the preface, now my choices and deliberation, do I go for a slightly older (2011) 17" iMac and pimp to spec (ram/ssd) |
Im using an i7 MBP from 2010, with an SSD and its plenty quick enough for retouching. I use Adobe CC and its very responsive. I generally have a lot of tabs open and I never have slowdown.
Also, for retouching the screen packs in a lot of detail and colours are excellent, even though its not a retina. Not ideal to be doing extended work on a small laptop screen though.
For home invest in a decent monitor, not sure what your budget is but something like:
27"
https://www.ebuyer.com/428184-dell-ultrasharp-u2713hm-27-led-hdmi-monitor-u2713hm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=CNGH3du4xcECFSPItAodU3wAEA
or
Acer K272HUL
Good 24"
Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24 inch LCD TFT Monitor (16:10, 1920x1200, 300 cd/m2)
Good 23"
AOC I2369VM 23 inch IPS LED Monitor |
The monitor I have in my studio is an Lg 25" 21:9 aspect ratioips panel, I actually prefer it to the 27" iMac I have at home as it leaves plenty of room at the sides, I like Lightroom panels as large as possible for small adjustments, it also has a dual input pip mode - i'll be getting another of those for the home! ____________________ Past -Honda qr50 | 2004 Peugeot Tkr s 50| | 1996 Yamaha XJ600s Diversion|| 2005|Kawasaki Z750s | | 2006 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer |
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I wouldn't sweat that too much, ram isn't going to mudflate anytime soon with DDR4 prices as they are  ____________________ 2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST |
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I went for a macbook last year and went for the 15" retina, i dont hold much data on it and is only really used for.
Photography - Lightroom - Photoshop - Photo Mechanic - EOS Utility
Emails
Browsing
FTP
I tether it in the studio for product shots (only works with newer cameras, older version of EOS utility maxes out CPU and the newer version does not work with 5dmk 2s but newer version works with 6D etc.
I find it works very well but it makes my PC feel really fecking slow, the 15" is big enough for me and dont fancy lumping a 17" around, i did that with an alienware laptop for years. ____________________ Current: 2019 Yamaha T7 -> 2015 KTM Superduke R | 2000 Yamaha R1 Past -> 2009 KTM 990 SM -> 2005 kawasaki ZX10r -> 2000 Honda CBR 600 FY -> 2002 Honda XLV 125 Varadero
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_Will_ wrote: |
That's the one, as said I prefer it to the 27" for working as the aspect ratio lends to multiple windows/apps, colour/sharpness/contrast all as good as the iMac too (which is a very decent monitor in itself.
Well worth the £200 - actually the 25" I will be moving to the home and then purchasing the 29" model for the office! |
Thanks for the feedback on the screen. I'll be looking for one in a couple of months.
Re the reliability of those 1g Retina Macbook pro's, a colleague has one, its been fine, the only issue was a drop off in battery life which can be swapped out anyway relatively cheaply if need be. ____________________ 1988 Kawasaki KMX 200
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