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kramdra
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 25 Oct 2014    Post subject: Handguards on a sportsbike Reply with quote

Seems like a good idea rather than muffs. Hot grips are not enough for when it gets properly cold. I tried guards on a Suzuki DL650 which work very well, kept wind away, hands dry. Never seen guards on a sports, other than cardboard/milk bottle types.

Tempted to buy some alu bar/abs sheet and start from scratch but these are so cheap! had no idea if they would fit as standard. No great loss if they dont. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350652278883
https://images.esellerpro.com/2347/I/906/73/MT%20-GRD-001.jpg

https://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/Kramdra/Cbr600/handguards/IMG_20141025_192414_zps25cd96df.jpg

Thats a no then. They hit clocks with steering nearly centered. To pass MOT the steering must be able to reach full lock without interference. So they need to be modified a bit. The bar part is solid aluminuim, so no problem drilling new holes. However it has a bend just before the bar end Mad The fixings are a bit shit, so Ill probably make up my own.

Plastic has holes and needs extending a bit, probably use fibreglass or shape some ABS sheet over it.

https://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/Kramdra/Cbr600/handguards/IMG_20141025_194221_zps8d72a302.jpg

Thats on full lock, plenty of clearance for lever.

https://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/Kramdra/Cbr600/handguards/IMG_20141025_194337_zps157687d0.jpg
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Handguards on a sportsbike Reply with quote

Have you used decent muffs?

Decent muffs sound like a good idea.
Everything else sounds like a waste of time.

And yes, to the point I now have my 'urbanos on my push bike that's used for commuting.

Never find hand guards to be anywhere near at all.

Good thing about them is you can use them with cheap muffs to stop them pushing on the levers when you get out of town. Also good if you need to remove and replace hands very easily from muffs.

I made brackets for muffs on my zx9 out of some old shelving for cheapness.

Oh and you could easily 'modify for MOT' by removing them prior to the MOT Wink.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Handguards on a sportsbike Reply with quote

Muffs look shit and proper ones are asking 50 quid Shocked Shocked Shocked

Guards probably going to use year round if just for rain protection. I might make/buy some over-muffs if needed.

I realise my OE clutch lever is longer than my bars, so need suggesions for cheap chinese adjustable/folding levers Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muffs look shit...

Compared to some botched plastic handguards.

On a sportsbike.

Rolling Eyes Wink

Okayyyyyyyy.

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PostPosted: 09:32 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Barkbuster Blizzards on the Viffer, proper job. They're designed for sports tourers and flex at the point of contact with the fairing.

https://static.twisted-throttle.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/28496d0a14ec004b76332fd2427e3099/b/b/bbz-01_vfr800_004_sm_1.jpg
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted handguards to my old fazer. Muffs over the top in winter.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
I'm using Barkbuster Blizzards on the Viffer, proper job. They're designed for sports tourers and flex at the point of contact with the fairing.

https://static.twisted-throttle.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/28496d0a14ec004b76332fd2427e3099/b/b/bbz-01_vfr800_004_sm_1.jpg


I just looked them up and £85!!!
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

£85 to keep your hands warm winter, after winter.

I don't think it's a bad price to be fair. Considering some of us will happily spend £120+ on a pair of fancy Alpinstar gloves.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly what I thought. I don't mind shelling out for something if it does exactly the job I intended it for. Combined with the heated grips I can wear my summer gloves no bother and I don't feel like I'm fumbling around in a binbag. Personal preference, criticize all you like but sometimes it's not all about the money (And no that's not me saying I'm made of cash even though it makes me sound like an arrogant nobber)
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those barkbusters do look interesting, though on their site they don't recognise that the Divvy 900 exists in their fitting chart. Urbano may be the way to go though, going further up my arm to help cover the glove/jacket interface where water eventually seeps up.

Last winter I got through (heated grips and goretex leather gloves) but it wasn't really comfortable so looking for an upgrade this year. I'm used to long distance cycling through winter in sub-zero (water bottles frozen solid type cold) with comfortably warm hands - but that's with ski gloves, lower speed and also blood pumping from the exercise.

Maybe something custom fitted like this will do for me this winter:-

https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/soggybiker/635d49c9-8492-4756-83e2-b5c7ecd92595.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've fitted Tucano muffs to my bike for the first time this year. I'll never go back to riding through winter without them. Yes, they look a bit crap, but when I'm riding in the winter with warm hands I really could not care less. Combined with heated grips they really are great.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
I'm using Barkbuster Blizzards on the Viffer, proper job. They're designed for sports tourers and flex at the point of contact with the fairing.

https://static.twisted-throttle.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/28496d0a14ec004b76332fd2427e3099/b/b/bbz-01_vfr800_004_sm_1.jpg


Those look like a perfect comprimise between full muffs and normal small handguards - full control which muffs don't give but decent wind protection.

How warm are they when used with normal summer gloves and heated grips?
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TallPaul_S wrote:

How warm are they when used with normal summer gloves and heated grips?


Not toasty warm like you would be with full muffs. It's more like a nippy spring day if you see what I mean, it eliminates the windchill factor altogether.

The only thing I can complain about is my summer gloves are short so when it's a bit parky the wind goes into the sleeve area but I have some liners that can fill that gap. My winter gloves (Spada Enforcer winter version) have no bother though and no more agonising frostbitten thumbs for me Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had these guards. It gives almost no weather protection. I haven't notice any improvement. Saves your levers if the bike is dropped.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

C1REX wrote:
I had these guards. It gives almost no weather protection. I haven't notice any improvement. Saves your levers if the bike is dropped.


You mean the ones the OP is on about or the Barkbusters?
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
C1REX wrote:
I had these guards. It gives almost no weather protection. I haven't notice any improvement. Saves your levers if the bike is dropped.


You mean the ones the OP is on about or the Barkbusters?


I mean the one from the first post.
I'm a big fan of muffs.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

C1REX wrote:

I mean the one from the first post.
I'm a big fan of muffs.


Hand guards do next to nothing to keep your hands warm. All that wind they deflect, simply comes round and back on your hands....
Shame you can't just get the outer for the barkbuster muffs.... Would be nice to take the plastic handguards off and place them on as it gets cooler. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
£85 to keep your hands warm winter, after winter.

I don't think it's a bad price to be fair. Considering some of us will happily spend £120+ on a pair of fancy Alpinstar gloves.


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PostPosted: 18:53 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Handguards on a sportsbike Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Muffs look shit

Your bike looks shit.
You look shit.

Muffs will match.
Wink

And yes, again; for rain protection decent muffs are massively better. I've never had bone dry hands in extended periods of rain with guards, but I have with muffs.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Exactly what I thought. I don't mind shelling out for something if it does exactly the job I intended it for. Combined with the heated grips I can wear my summer gloves no bother and I don't feel like I'm fumbling around in a binbag. Personal preference, criticize all you like but sometimes it's not all about the money (And no that's not me saying I'm made of cash even though it makes me sound like an arrogant nobber)


I do agree it's worth paying extra for good kit. I just got some alpinestar textile trousers which were about £140 which are way better at being waterproof than the £50 pair I was using.

Just looking at them muffs to me £85 seems a lot for what they are. How are they better than the £30 oxford ones you can get?

I wasn't criticising as I have not used muffs before it seems like a lot to pay for them.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always found the Oxford ones to push against the levers before you even get to the national speed limit - at least it pushes the clutch in so you don't have the brakes and engine fighting!

I would guess these £85 ones are intended for dirt use where quicker access is more important that a good seal.

You can likely achieve similar by putting cheap muffs around guards.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

C1REX wrote:

I'm a big fan of muffs.


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PostPosted: 20:51 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I've always found the Oxford ones to push against the levers before you even get to the national speed limit - at least it pushes the clutch in so you don't have the brakes and engine fighting!

I would guess these £85 ones are intended for dirt use where quicker access is more important that a good seal.

You can likely achieve similar by putting cheap muffs around guards.


I just thought of something now. If the only fault with the oxford was is they lack physical strength then could you not just glue/stitch something into them. Been thinking of getting some muff more so just to keep my hands dry in the rain.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not so much the physical strength in that way, but that they also don't anchor to the end of the bars, so can rotate around the bar close to the yolks where they do affix.

I drilled a hole in mine and attached to the bar end.
Ended up adding a home made guard for the brake lever.

But Tuccano Urbano's are generally better muffs in must ways and well worth the money.

Keeping hands bone dry makes a massive difference on long winter rides.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 26 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

But Tuccano Urbano's are generally better muffs in must ways and well worth the money.

Keeping hands bone dry makes a massive difference on long winter rides.


+1

If you can go over the look then it's a fantastic investment. Riding comfort with always warm and dry hands is worth it.

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