TfL proposal: £12.50 daily charge to ride in London

[Vracktal]

More detail: TfL is currently consulting on a proposal that, from 2020, all motorbikes over 13 years old at that time (so anything pre-2007) should be charged £12.50 to ride within central London.

The consultation is open here: https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/environment/ultra-low-emission-zone

It's likely that everyone's views will be ignored, but still, i've inputted my views and disagreed with every single one regarding motorbikes.

Also left this in the comments:

[wr6133]

I doubt they give a shit about pollution figures, they just see all the bikes whizzing around and see £££ signs. That and they are jealous the bikes make better progress than their Audi's so they want to tax you off their roads.

[Andy_Pagin]

Right, so instead of a bike I may as well drive my 1967 Landrover, running on fully leaded petrol, chucking out whatever pollution it feels like, taking twice as long about it, and running as in-efficiently as possible?
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[Rogerborg]

Probably moot, by 2020 I doubt you'll even be able to get a motorcycle through London.
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Reminds me, it TfL are planning this for 2020 what's the progress of rolling out congestion charges to other large cities?
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[G]

Bikes are also likely to be more efficient than a car with similar figures as the engine will be running for a lot shorter time for the same distance in most cases.

[Dannygee]

Get the MAG on it, they love this sort of thing, no ?
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[Andy_Pagin]

[Nash GT]

Is all about making a statement
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Just thought as a side note. Will this kill off the vintage runs like the London to Brighton?
Current route takes it through this ULEZ area. 2013 saw 421 starters, list for 2014 is 439. That many in 2020 at £12.50 each would be a nice little earner of over £5400.
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[Rogerborg]

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[Itchy]

[DrSnoosnoo]

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[Vracktal]

Most important thing to do at the moment i'd say is spread it amongst motorcyclists and get as many nays as possible on that consultation.

It won't change TfL's mind one jot but it gives good ammo to any motorbike interest groups that might pick up the cause at some point, so they can point to the replies and say '77% of responses to the proposal thought it was cack' or some such.
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[c_dug]

I get the feeling BCF is a more active motorcycle interest group than any of the proper ones

Can we send a representative into parliament or something? I vote Ste.
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[pepperami]

[Vracktal]

[Polarbear]

[The Shaggy D.A.]

Yet another reason to avoid London. If it wasn't for the wife wanting to do the tourist thing I'd happily never set foot in the place again.
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[dydey90]

The worrying thing is, I heard today that they're on about forming TftN (Transport for the North) now that somebody has suggested HS3. Does this mean that I'll get bummed in the gob for the audacity of owning a motor vehicle as a peasant?
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