Binned my pizza bike

notbike · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Karma :

So I was pootling along today on delivery and I was on a main road. There was a side road joining the main road on the left hand side, and a car was waiting there. I assumed he had seen me because he hadn't moved at all during my approach so naturally you'd think he wouldn't then pull out right in front of you. Wrong.

So he pulls out infront of me, there's a car on the right hand side of the main road thats gonna turn into that side road and so I decided not to swerve and hit him, and instead grab a fistful of front brake and lock the front at what I imagine was 20-30mph. When I felt it lock I think I must have dived off the bike or something cause I saw my hands infront of me and I went off to the right as the bike went left.

Anyway I fell off, got up, car drove off quickly, BMW driver behind me saw everything asked if I was okay and all that, surprisingly he was the only person to get out of his car to see if I was okay, other drivers seemed to just sit there & watch me pick my pizza bike up.

I have a sore right knee, nothing else hurts though so I guess I was lucky. Weirdly it wasn't all that scary, I just had this crazy adrenaline feeling and couldn't stop laughing nervously before then calling my boss and pushing my bike back to the store (was only up the road anyway)

My pizza bike is not road-taxed, it ran out on the 30th of last month. It's a worrying thought because if I actually hit that car and they were going to put this through insurance and all that bollocks, legally that bike shouldn't be allowed on the road so I'd have no leg to stand on? And what would happen to me if I was riding that bike not taxed, am I liable even though it's the company's bike?

Something was out to get me today anyway, I slipped and fell on my arse later on during another delivery lol. At least the pizza didn't go everywhere like when I crashed though. Fucking terrible day to say the least, I hate rain.

inb4 poor obs.

inb4 pics, not going to post work-related pics.

Llama-Farmer · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Karma :

obligatory paint diagram is obligatory
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The Artist · Super Spammer Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Karma :

So was the Pizza OK?

Llama-Farmer · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Karma :

Also good to know you're not broken.

With regards to the bike, yes, you'd be in trouble probably for it not being taxed.

BUT, tax, or lack of, doesn't absolve the insurance company of their obligations to pay out to 3rd parties. I don't think.

If your insurance are obliged to pay out when the uninsured new owner crashes and you never cancelled the policy, then I'm sure they're obliged to pay out regardless of tax or MOT.

Just because you didn't hit the car, or the car didn't hit you, it doesn't mean they are not a part of the accident. If you pull out on a biker and that causes them to crash, you are a party involved in the accident even if there is no collision. To drive off is an offence.

If you had been injured, or swerved and hit an oncoming car and were seriously injured, then this would have been a very serious offence on their part.
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notbike · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Karma :

The pizza was not okay Sad

Here's the best I could do for a paint diagram, probably very out of proportion mind!

https://i.imgur.com/FUIRRIf.png

Red car is the one who waited forever, then suddenly pulled out on me, orange car is the car i didnt want to hit by swerving, X is around where I hit the brake hard, green person is me, blue is bike.

I honestly don't know how I ended up flying off the bike the opposite way to the way it fell.

Thanks for the info Llama, so that means that driver is a dick for not stopping, and I should hassle my boss to get the bikes taxed. I'm kind of worried that they aren't even MoT'd because half of htem are in such bad condition. To be honest I'm glad he didn't stop because I was very angry in the moment, I don't think he would've been able to reason with me.

The condition of the bikes, one of them has a throttle that seems to be stuck wide open because when you start it it revs like mad and nothing stops it. Another bike has a rear brake that sticks. Another bike the clutch doesn't even grab at all so you can rev it like crazy and it moves a couple centimetres. Electric start is knackered on most of them, some also have a non-working kickstart. Other bikes have wiring problems, indicator problems, and battery problems.

Think I might move to the place up the road (literally 10 doors up the road)- They've got brand new 2014 scooters, far better uniform, and pay 50p more per hour.

covent.gardens · World Clap Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Karma :

We don't have to display tax disks any more, so how dafuq are you meant to know if your company vehicle is taxed or not? Lack of tax will have nothing to do with establishing fault in an insurance claim, anyway.

However if you take a dangerous vehicle out on the road then it's down to you.

Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

Who does the bike belong to? If it is you then you are an idiot for riding it with no tax, if it belongs to the pizza company then it is still your responsibility so you are still an idiot for riding with no tax. I once had a disciplinary over being sent to a job and getting there late, the company I worked for said that if I did 90+ on the motorway I would have made it in good time (other workers did this regularly in the works Alpha). Laughed out of tribunal. Just because you are at work you can not break the law despite what your boss may tell you.
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thx1138 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Karma :

be careful, you don't want to end up like your pizzas

flat, cold and in a box.

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CieL · Brolly Dolly Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Karma :

Good thing you're okay, I remember having one of those days a few months back, when a lot that could have gone wrong did. Then you finally get home, get into bed and you're like thank god this day is over. Then half an hour later you fall through the bed as it breaks and you spend the rest of the night trying to fix an unfixable s**t just to get some sleep.

When it rains it pours...
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wr6133 · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Karma :

Glad to hear you landed well and don't seem to be damaged.

Check the tax and MOT status here https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

MC · Banned Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Karma :

Check if the vehicles taxed online: https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

Even if it's not, that's no reason for not reporting an accident, you have reported it to police haven't you?

Usual thing, any CCTV, witnesses etc?

Careful with the knee, I had a sore right knee, 7 months on I've still got a sore right knee Rolling Eyes

Also with regards to company vehicles, refuse to take the dangerous ones out, particularly as they're bikes... it's your life after all. I do that at work, I don't take vans out with broken mirrors or bald tyres, ends up in a massive argument but I normally get my way.
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notbike · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Karma :

So it turns out it was taxed & MoT'd on 6th of Oct so it was in date. I'm gonna check that for the other bikes because I swear some of them could not pass an MoT.

There was plenty of witnesses and must've been CCTV somewhere, but I didn't report it cause I didn't care that it wasn't my bike and I wasn't really hurt. Probably the wrong attitude but still, seemed more hassle than it was worth at the time.

My knee feels okay this morning no pain haha!

I refuse to take out the shit ones, I try to get the best bike I can for my shift.

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MC · Banned Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Karma :

Well I know people who have had the police find CCTV after an accident, and they at least attempted to do the same in my case (even though I knew there was none).

In Meef's case I would at least be checking for CCTV myself. With no witnesses details your going to struggle anyway, but for all you know the driver could have reported it afterwards (like what happened to someone else on here).
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notbike · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Karma :

MC · Banned Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Karma :

Street view? If it was a high street the chances of it being caught are (obviously) higher. There might still be a random spy cam' you can't see on street view, or outside someone's house.
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notbike · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Karma :

P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Always hit the car. Sure, slow down, but hit the car.

MC · Banned Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Karma :

I think the advice should be don't lock the front, general good advice Smile

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notbike · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Karma :

Haha I kind of wish I did hit the car now, would have been better to hit him than just fall off like a twunt Laughing

Always seems that much scarier to hit a hard thing though, this felt more like a bicycle crash back when I was mountain biking and jumping off things, you just hit the floor and slide a little. Actually I think I've hurt myself worse on a mountain bike, I never had the protective gear 'cept helmet.