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thx1138
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 18 Nov 2014    Post subject: This lift stand any good? Reply with quote
Decided to start doing more for myself, and stop paying others to do it.

In particular my CRF250L. To that end, thinking of a lift stand, this any good do you think?

https://www.ghostbikes.com/products/Accessories-Bike-Stands/5069-black-pro-range-mx-lift-stand-(b5069).html
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 18 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't get it.
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Height of stand when fully lowered - 31cm (approx.)
Height of stand when fully raised - 40cm (approx.)

So a lowest height of 12".... That's far more than your average bike... So you are going to physically lift the bike onto it. Unless you have a flat bottomed bike. It's not going to work.
Better off with a pair of paddock stands.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 18 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
iooi wrote:
I don't get it.
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Height of stand when fully lowered - 31cm (approx.)
Height of stand when fully raised - 40cm (approx.)

So a lowest height of 12".... That's far more than your average bike... So you are going to physically lift the bike onto it. Unless you have a flat bottomed bike. It's not going to work.
Better off with a pair of paddock stands.


Err, it's for off roaders...?
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 18 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know it's expensive but these are pretty good, see if you can find a second hand one?

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/bike-lifts-movers/abba-abba-pro-stand
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 18 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry, just re-read what bike it was for, yeah that'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 18 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: This lift stand any good? Reply with quote
Looks very similar to the one I had which was poor quality - hard to lift using the lever, so you might as well just have a milk crate.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 19 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: This lift stand any good? Reply with quote
Because the tolerances were far enough out that with a heavier bike I had to put my full weight on it WHILE lifting the bike.
With an enduro bike, it was just my full weight alone while steadying the bike.
Overall, less hassle to just lift the back end up on to it with it already up. At which point, you might as well have a solid stand anyway.
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 19 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Xx-BarbieGirl-Xx wrote:
and I couldn't have done that with a milk crate Laughing Thumbs Up

Are you not equipped with hands?
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(I reckon I can easily lift more than the weight one of these even in good nick can with my hands - and could then place it on a milk crate if need be Smile ).
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I bought one very similar to lift my KLR and as IooI said, check the clearance height under your bike's frame against the minimum height of the lift first..

My bike is a reasonably tall trail bike and I still have to use a trolley jack under the rear suspension to get the bike high enough to put the lift under it.

If your bike has suitable mounting points for it I'd recommend an Abba Stand, I use one on my GPz in preference to normal paddock stands every time.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know it's a crapload more but I'm looking to get one of these to replace my MX style lift:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cml5-hydraulic-motorcycle-and-atv-lift

I've seen this style on ebay for ~£70, with it being hydraulic you've got a much easier task to lift your bike, as G said the MX style lifts are just a foot lever so no mechanical advantage unless you weigh more than your bike.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
karoshi wrote:
MX style lifts are just a foot lever so no mechanical advantage unless you weigh more than your bike.


You know how a lever works right?
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fisty wrote:
You know how a lever works right?


Nope, the concept has completely passed me by Confused

This is the exact mx lift model I have:
https://i.imgur.com/w4Uqf0j.jpg

Even though there is a difference in length either side of the pivot, it gives very little extra power, partly because the lifting action is split through a second moving part, but also because it's so cheaply made that you're fighting against friction on every component as well.

My bike is an A model KLR650, it's quoted weight is around 400LBs against my weight of roughly 300LBs. Once I've jacked my bike up on a trolley jack to get it onto the lift I have to physically stand on the foot lever to force the lift up against the weight of the bike, this isn't a massive problem but it's not exactly easy.

The next problem is getting it off the lift, there's no springs or dampers in the mechanism at all, so your only option is to flip the lever up with your foot and hope it doesn't catch your shin as the weight of your bike crashes to the floor.

So yeah, they're totally worth the money.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most one step stands would be suitable for a CRF250L.I have two,one for each dirt bike

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Honda%20750/My%20bikes/Picture002-2.jpg

But the best way to work on the bikes is to use a proper lift (I was given the second one Very Happy )

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture394.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fizzer Thou wrote:

But the best way to work on the bikes is to use a proper lift (I was given the second one Very Happy )

Still need something to lift it off the stand to do stuff to wheels etc, so back to the same problem Smile.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 21 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/2014-05-02192704_zps730a6612.jpg
https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/2014-05-02192411_zpsc03c1ca6.jpg
https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/2013-09-05153447_zpsbc81ec45.jpg
https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/2013-06-06183932_zps24966dc6.jpg

With the right stands then the work is easier to do.

If I had to start again I would have bought the ABBA stand and the box of adapters Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 21 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice setup! Got any more pics or details of the white stand in the last picture?
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 21 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fizzer Thou wrote:
But the best way to work on the bikes is to use a proper lift (I was given the second one Very Happy )


Oh man I'm totally getting workshop envy right now Smile

G wrote:
Still need something to lift it off the stand to do stuff to wheels etc, so back to the same problem Smile.


Yo Dawg, we put a lift on yo' lift, so you can lift while yo' lift..
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 21 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCISSOR-MOTORBIKE-BIKE-ATV-QUAD-MOTORCYCLE-JACK-LIFT-/110514512589?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19bb2da2cd

those are good, as for the more basic type's the one the OP posted is rubbish. better off with one like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motocross-BIKE-LIFT-H-Stand-TRIALS-Jack-MX-Moto-X-Enduro-Motorcross-/230808081883?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item35bd3bd5db

or if you are feeling flush this is bloody good

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRC-HC2-Stand-w-Damper-Motocross-Stand-Paddock-Stand-Motocross-Enduro-Bikes-/161378606900?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2592ea1f34

I have used all 3 regularly and had no issues
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 22 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lee Wright wrote:
Nice setup! Got any more pics or details of the white stand in the last picture?


I bought that stand from NWS,who built project bikes for Performance Bike magazine and at the time they were making these stands for a multitude of bikes.

I have not seen their advertising for some time and a google search shows up nothing.Shame,as they also made some nice carbon fibre parts like the frame guards and front mudguard for Exup 1000s
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 22 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bike ramps are silly. Scared of the floor or very old? Laughing

Abba stands are well known, but lots of better variations. The idea of needing adaptors is shit, so get a different brand.

If you have lots of space (Fizzer seems to) Id go for a variation of one of these www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/bike-specific-stands-lifts/warrior-spider-stand

The linkage on that looks a bit under engineered to me. Theres hydraulic versions too. Abba also make something to lift the normal stand, not a great design imo.
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