r6 to r1

[stranger12]

Hi All,

I have had my r6 for over 6 month now and still love it but for some reason I keep thinking about r1.

I am keep telling myself to stop as I have spend over £400 on the bike in the past 6 month but now can't stop thinking that I need to swap .

If you were me , would you have got r1 ?
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[wr6133]

Do you ride the R6 at 100% of it's ability most of the time?

If answer is no you don't need an R1

If answer is yes you are either a pro rider or are mistaking your ability as the bikes ability. Either way you don't need an R1

[stranger12]

no I don't but do push the bike both straight and corner

It is more of straight line I need something quicker
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[wr6133]

Well if you can afford it do it.

I use my earlier example on myself when I lust after a ZZR1100, it makes me conclude I simply need to ride the 400 better rather than hide my inability to push the bike to it's limit constantly by buying a bigger displacement. It's also better than admitting to myself I can't afford to run an 1100

[monkeybiker]

It's up to you. Nobody 'needs' a litre bike. It's not really about the extra power it's the easy power and you can ride about and be lazy with the gearbox.

[stranger12]

with the liter bike , do you get the lazy and rev hungry feeling as you get with 600 as with my r6 ?

you need to rev it hard and high for it to move . if you are on 3-4k on 3-4th gear a reanualt 1.2 can overtake you before it picks up unless you shift down quickly but sometimes end up doing a long unintended wheele
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[_Iain_]

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[stranger12]

[RhynoCZ]

So, as I see it. You've already made the decision and you want a approval from complete strangers on the internet?
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[stranger12]

not really , half of me says don't buy it and the other part says do

I don't need all that power but again ...

so want to get some opinions

I have just spent decent amount on my r6 and going to r1 will have to consider selling my r6 for quite a bit of loss.

what would be the power jump like?
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[monkeybiker]

I've got a ZED1000 so not quite the same power as an R1 but yes you still need to rev it but not 9-10k. Round country roads I can just leave it in 3rd if I can't be arsed changing gear.

You have a bigger range of usable power.

To be totally honest I would be quite happy with a 600cc bike. I bought my ZED more for the looks but the power when you can use it is nice.

[monkeybiker]

[_Iain_]

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[Fizzer Thou]

I find that my 5JJ fits my frame adequately and while on holiday in France earlier this year there were plenty of times when the power was fun at *** mph

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Biking%20Abroad/image2_zps04679cfc.jpeg

A few years ago I rode down to Tuscanny for a friends wedding,together with the best man on his R6.The only time that there was an advantage over the smaller bike was on the fast Autobahn stretches on the way back North after the event.I did try the R6 for size,but I felt cramped

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Biking%20Abroad/309968_25A_011.jpg

What about a GSXR750K8?

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Biking%20Abroad/Picture010_zps50729017.jpg
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[AlanC]

I went from an '08 R6 to an R1 last year.

No, I wasn't riding the R6 at 100% most of the time. I was getting tired of having to rev the nuts off it to hit the real power (11K rpm plus) though. Plus I'm 6'2" and, well, the words "monkey" and "football" came to mind.

The R1 is much easier to ride. Physically bigger bike so far more comfortable for me, handles and rides much better. The power is like the R6 at its most insane all the time, which makes for a rather sensitive throttle.

Do I need all that power? Nope. Can I come close to using it on the road? Nope. Is it fun? Oh yes.

I do miss the way the R6 went batshitinsane as it hit the powerband, though.

[RhynoCZ]

The best thing to do is to have a go on a liter sports motorcycle, rather than asking people around about what they think of it. When I had the GPz and CB-1 I though I needed more power, now having the ZXR I see I was wrong. Smaller bikes are more fun, because you can go flat out everywhere, and you can actually reach the top speed quite often, I mean the magical moment when you're in 6th gear and revs are licking the red zone in the clock.
But, those small engines are really stressed even when you commute on the bike, which was the reason I sold perfectly fine CB-1 and got the ZXR, which at commuting speeds use only 30% of the engine's potential, plus the MPG is the same, just like the CB-1 had.

Don't take me wrong, if you open the throttle wide open on any bigger sports bike, the fuel will just flow through in couple of minutes.
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[Snop Doog]

The way I see it, if you want it, get it. Simple. I really wouldn't care about if I push the bike to its limits.

[stevo as b4]

I'd imagine early R1 up to 2002, for the lazy lolz, but the new fangle short stroke witchcraft engines used in later models until the crossplane fake V4 came out, would be more top endy?


In a way I'm glad I didn't years ago trade up to a 2002 Blade from the ZX6R I had. I used to ride that very lazy, and it was probably the most suitable 600 for doing that on (until 636cc came out), but the Blade would have probably made me ride worse and always be 3gears too high instead of just 2! I seriously rarely needed the 10k+ rush for most sunday rides, or commutes or for European touring.

On a torquey Litre machine, I probably would have never needed 1/2 of the rev range. Was never into racing on the road etc. I remember a mate telling me that a friend of his had brought a then nearly new SV1000S, but that it could not keep up with his 636 A1 Ninja when going quick. I knew that for any normal making fast progress riding without straying massively into instant your banned territory that he was largely talking bollocks.

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