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 Posted: 18:42 - 12 Nov 2014 Post subject: New build specs...thoughts? |
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It has been 4 and a half years since I last built a pc, my current one isn't exactly terrible, but struggles with the latest games.
I have been a good boy at work and will be getting a £500 amazon voucher in a couple of weeks, so may as well use that to bankroll the build, to an extent...
Currently leaning towards this setup:
CPU: AMD FX-9590 (£160)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Motherboard (£127)
GPU: EVGA NVIDIA GTX 970 (£260)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 - Love it, but £160... (ebuyer) Anything full tower size that is cheaper but will suit me just as well?
I'll also need a new PSU, my current one is only 650watts and it won't power the above. Any recommendations for a decent, modular PSU? preferably around the 850 watt and £100 price tag.
Liquid cooling - Not done this before, no idea what is decent, if anyone can point me in the direction of a suitable setup that would be great.
So, Have I missed anything here? Anything similarly spec'd but cheaper, or slightly more expensive but superior?
Also, do amazon usually have sales on computer parts as part of their black Friday sales? If so, it might be worth holding fire for a while.
Dale ____________________
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| Dale_Mckeown wrote: |
Software engineer. I do like my threads, probably not much use at home though.
You're right - the power consumption seems barmy in comparison to the i5-4690K. You have given me something to think about there. Surprised the FX doesn't turn off cores when they are not in use.
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They are power hungry - but they do lower core speed when idle (Dynamic frequency) to save power.
and example is my FX-8150, clocked at 4.3GHz, but sits at 1.4GHz per core when idle:
https://i.imgur.com/dnDox46.png
But they still consume allot of power compared to others  ____________________ Current: 2010 WR125X, Carrera crossfire-E.
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| Dale_Mckeown wrote: | How about this intel setup?
CPU: Intel Core i5 i5-4690K (£168)
MOBO: ASRock Mod 1150 Z97 Extreme4 ATX (£106)
Any other thoughts on PSU? current 650 one isn't modular so getting replaced either way.
Also nice full tower cases?
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PSU:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corsair-HX1000W-CMPSU-1000HX-Profession-Series-80-Plus-Certified-Modular-PSU-/171540033495?pt=UK_Computing_PowerSupplies_EH&hash=item27f0952fd7
Its used, but nice and cheap?
Case:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-942-KKN1-Cooler-Master-HAF-X-MicroATX-ATX-E-ATX-XL-ATX-Full-Tower-Case-/311032745358?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item486aff0d8e
Pricey, but you can find many second hand - as it doesn't really effect anything when its a case. ____________________ Current: 2010 WR125X, Carrera crossfire-E.
Project's: '88 GL1500 Trike, Chinese 170cc Monkey
Previous: X9-500, XT125, DNA125, CBF125, YZF-R125, '98 K1200RS, '99 St1100, fantic245 |
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 Posted: 22:48 - 12 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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A used PSU, and a 1000W one (way, way more than he needs?)
I just bought a SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black from Overclockers after a lot of research, it's a very good PSU. ~£100
Re: your ASRock mobo, back in the days when a P4 3Ghz was top of the range, I build a system with an ASRock mobo. The Windows startup jingle was juttery (via onboard sound) and benchmarks e.g. 3D Mark showed my system scoring about 10% less than it should. Turns out their mobo's were cheap for a reason and bottlenecked the CPU, crappy onboard sound... I changed the mobo to an Asus and no more juttery start-up jingle; benchmarks were up. It was a long time ago though and I've heard they have changed, people actually rate them now... but once bit and all that, I'd never buy another. Just bear in mind the motherboard can affect everything so don't skimp. I'd stick with your initial choice of Asus all day long. |
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| Dale_Mckeown wrote: |
Thanks for the heads up. Yeah I haven't used ASRock before, but the current motherboard is Asus and it hasn't faultered once in 4 and a half years  |
Its the other way around for me, had 2 Asus MoBo's fail on me in the same year and am now running an ASrock extreme 3 (?) that's running fine, touch wood. (im a fan of neither - just encase it becomes a fanboy debate )
I suppose these days it just comes down to Luck. i have a friend that swears by Gigabyte boards, but reviewers hate them - it makes shopping for a decent mobo really hard  ____________________ Current: 2010 WR125X, Carrera crossfire-E.
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This turned out to be the final spec:
https://s21.postimg.org/uofo02gpj/finalbuild.jpg
Case should arrive today, then parts should start to trickle in. Will test what I can as it arrives in the current computer to make sure it isn't DOA. ____________________
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Should handle anything you throw at it***
makes my pc look 100 years old
***assuming the game/program you throw at it is not cow-plop programmed by plebs which seems to run badly on all PC's, regardless of power - *cough* watch_dogs release *cough*)  ____________________ Current: 2010 WR125X, Carrera crossfire-E.
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| merquis00 wrote: |
Should handle anything you throw at it***
makes my pc look 100 years old
***assuming the game/program you throw at it is not cow-plop programmed by plebs which seems to run badly on all PC's, regardless of power - *cough* watch_dogs release *cough*)  |
Add to the ROME II. A year after release and it still runs like a pile of dog shit. Losing faith in many game studio's, and their publishers who try to push stuff out of the door before it is ready. Who the hell thought particle processing on the CPU was the right thing to do?
As a software developer myself I know not to blame the actual guys and gals who do the dev work - these kind of stupid decisions always come from Mr hasn't got a clue, power complex, own agenda who makes the decision with a panel of people who also have no clue. It's the same everywhere.
A good project manager will always ask how quickly something can be done, then ask how quickly it can be done properly.  ____________________
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| Dale_Mckeown wrote: |
Add to the ROME II. A year after release and it still runs like a pile of dog shit. |
agreed, and that's the funny part - even without the bugs/issues its still a bad game
I'm glad you didn't call it "total war" as far as i can see, its just "rome II: nothing to see here - Click next turn"
(admittedly, this is from a fanboi expecting medieval2/shogun2 etc type game)
my rage has put me off topic *cough* pc stuff! stuff good!  ____________________ Current: 2010 WR125X, Carrera crossfire-E.
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Rome II : total blobs.
Shogun II was very well polished (eventually), but It didn't really interest me.
Napolean was probably the best game from the Total War series. The sea battles were amazing.
I'd love to see a ww2 style total war game, with amazing naval battles! ____________________
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Grab OCCT from here
https://www.ocbase.com/download.php?fileext=zip
Unzip to desktop
CPU:OCCT tab
Large Data set for detecting errors.
Let it run for 10mins and see what happens.
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Small data set testing temperature management
Let it run for 10mins. |
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| CaNsA wrote: | Grab OCCT from here
https://www.ocbase.com/download.php?fileext=zip
Unzip to desktop
CPU:OCCT tab
Large Data set for detecting errors.
Let it run for 10mins and see what happens.
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Small data set testing temperature management
Let it run for 10mins. |
Hmm, that fails as soon as it comes out of the monitoring period. Doesn't mention why though, as far as i can tell. ____________________
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| barrkel wrote: | According to my SWAG[1], about 90% of random crashes on new builds are caused by bad memory.
Try taking out one DIMM, then repeating test, then a different DIMM, etc. until you have a stable system.
If you only have one DIMM, sucks to be you.
BIOS settings other than default (i.e. not overclocking) generally make no difference.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Wild-Ass_Guess |
I was pondering the same when i spotted the screen shot.
I googled the error code and this was the 1st result.
IU know it it relating to AutoCAD, but the resolution might help you out.
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-application-was-unable-to-start-correctly-0xc0000142.html
Also, might be worth swapping the sticks round in the slots, then do another OCCT test and see when/if it fails.
Kinda "out there" but if the crash happens later in the test then you know the stick in the 2nd slot could be the faulty bugger.
That worked with single channel ram, dunno if it will work with DC or TC |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 41 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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