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Visitor Q
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Waste of cash? Reply with quote

Since i am getting a hornet for some fast a road fun in about 6 weeks i thought id invest in a road angel esque device.

However me being a penis, went and 'splurged' on bidding for this.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5744930234&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT

Im not bidding any higher then that so if i get outbid... meh.

But any of you guys think its worth the agro?

edit: this appears to be the detector reviewed
https://www.pistonheads.com/reviews/reviews.asp?c=2&id=15
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really to be honest, but I don't speed in town anyway so would find it useless.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you've been outbid anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest I wouldn't go for a detector (sold my snooper one some time last year on ebay) as they are useless. You're better of with the systems that have the speed cameras listed and use GPS (like Road Angel as you've mentioned).
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do what most people do and use your eyes, if your going too fast to see the camera then you deserve to be caught. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be better off using a Road Angel type device that uses GPS. The only things that unit can do, is tell you that you've been caught by a handheld laser/radar unit.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh outbid anyhew.

Not to worry Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a few RA 2s for sale not long ago. All sold now. Last one recently went VERY cheap... Rolling Eyes

Try Ebay there may be some cheap ones left. Can't guarantee it.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How hard are they to whack on a bike? And without the bastid earpiece. I want an LED one, hopefully with an airhorn or some kind of tazer attached to my genitals. Might wake me up.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

youngun' wrote:
Do what most people do and use your eyes, if your going too fast to see the camera then you deserve to be caught. Thumbs Up


I have to disagree with that. If your on roads you don't know then the extra security of such a Speedcamera GPS helps give you that little warning in advice so you can adjust your speed accordingly. The more miles you do the bigger benefit, as you expose yourself more to the risk.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had one of these fitted to my TL1000R, it was crap. Little lights flash to let you know of something, not the same as it beeping at you in a car. Unless you're actually looking at it (which you probably shouldn't be when riding around) you're not going to notice the LED's flashing away. If you could hook it up to headphones so it beeps at you then that'd be better on a bike but I know some automatic doors set them oiff around towns, noticed it a couple of times but only when looking to see if it was set off by them due to the crap LED's.

youngun' wrote:
Do what most people do and use your eyes, if your going too fast to see the camera then you deserve to be caught. Thumbs Up

If you're caught by a bright yellow gatso that is clearly visible at the side of the road, then fair enough, you should have been able to see it and slow down enough before going through it. Camera vans, laser and radar traps are another problem which I'd expect is what most people want radar and laser detectors for.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im going to uni somewhere random soon, with roads i need to investigate on a bike thats alot faster and better on the uptake then im used to. Ergo i see a random straight ill (knowing me) blast it, and go past a speed camera.

Added security is very nice, specially once youve been to court. Matures your view somewhat.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:

Added security is very nice, specially once youve been to court. Matures your view somewhat.


I'm with him Shifty
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Hustler"]
youngun' wrote:
If your on roads you don't know then the extra security of such a Speedcamera GPS helps give you that little warning in advice so you can adjust your speed accordingly.


If you're on roads you don't know, surely you shouldn't be speeding, or at least not to the point you can't slow for a camera?
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worst traps for concealment are probably mobile ones, you are also a lot less likely to know where they are. These won't be in a database, I presume (don't know if regular haunts are).

Wonder how a small LED inside your helmet could work... enough for you to notice, but not enough to be unobtrusive... might be really distracting if done wrong though.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 23 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or it might cause you to panic, grab the brakes and lose speed in an unintentionally abrupt way. Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory wrote:

If you're on roads you don't know, surely you shouldn't be speeding, or at least not to the point you can't slow for a camera?


Not necessarily, you could be doing 35 on a dual carridge way in the pouring rain looking for a sign post not realising that the speed in restricted to 30mph (eg A27 into Worthing). What you get from the GPS is an alert well ahead which brings your focus back to the speed at which your travelling well in advance of the camera giving you notice to make a change to your speed or look for the speed limit signs.

Extra peace of mind Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory why are you so set against them... ?

We all speed, infact thats why we dont all ride cb 90s. We quite often like to speed.

Also if you think we are all retarded enough to just grab a fistful whenever the light comes on, then thank you. Thats very kind.

You forget this things tell you about 200 meters in advance. About enough time to stand it up and start scrubbing.

This is no singular answer to protecting our licence, except of course potter everywhere at very low speeds. My favourite road has often been used by police to nab bikers, before you say you can go fast on roads you know.

Plus i will be doing some serious mileage from uni to home, other unis etc. And i would like to think im not going to get stung. Jesus i might even be going to wales Shocked no speed cameras there.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all speed yet we all know the consequences, that’s what makes it fun.

However

Most speed limits are there for a reason (although sometimes the limits are just plain old dumb), you’d slow down a bit if a member of your family got killed by someone speeding who thinks its someone else who causes the accidents.

On a side note, on average I’ve noticed more speed cameras in south wales then in London. Mainly due to the many deaths in the late 90s of retard boyo racers in their novas and golfs speeding into the nearest mountain.

I feel very old and boring now i've said that Sad
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally , I think that road angel type devices make you a lazy type of rider / driver ... you stop looking for speed traps and therefore you miss other hazards..........

I prefer to use my eyes and concentrate ...

Therefor I think devices like this are a waste of money .. gps nav system much more fun !
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hustler wrote:
_Dom' wrote:
Do what most people do and use your eyes, if your going too fast to see the camera then you deserve to be caught. Thumbs Up


I have to disagree with that. If your on roads you don't know then the extra security of such a Speedcamera GPS helps give you that little warning in advice so you can adjust your speed accordingly. The more miles you do the bigger benefit, as you expose yourself more to the risk.


Fair enough mate, but i thought he was on about the GPS detectors that just told you where a fixed camera was. Thumbs Up

There is a speed limit for a reason, and from people who know me this may sound stupid (because i never stick to speed limits) but if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. You all know the speed limits so if you get caught speeding it's your own fault, as it's illegal. If you want to show off your riding skills or show people how fast your bike is, then we have trackdays for that. It may sound like i'm contradicting myself, but, if i get caught speeding i am the one who is in the wrong and it's usually 100% the offending persons fault. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough to those that disagree, but octane, why is this post boring?
It shows my opinion, which is what most people dop on these forums Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 24 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Had one of these fitted to my TL1000R, it was crap.


Ste

Glad I didn't bid on this now! You didn't mention it was crap when I emailed you when you were selling it!! Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 25 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddie_gumshoe wrote:
Personally , I think that road angel type devices make you a lazy type of rider / driver ... you stop looking for speed traps and therefore you miss other hazards..........

I prefer to use my eyes and concentrate ...

You could also argue that those without road angle type devices are paying less attention to other hazards as they are looking out for speed traps all the time and so can't be paying as much attention to everything else as someone who has a detector to watch out for speed traps for them.

Tintin, there isn't a way of putting a good spin on "it's crap" I'm afraid. Sad Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 27 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure around you, but here in Staffs they are getting very keen on using mobile vans. If you have all the possible locations of these in the gps system then it would be going off constantly on A roads so it would be pretty useless there.

OK you can say that a fixed camera you should be able to see, but the vans are often positioned to catch you as you come round a bend into view. For example on the A449 ona 70mph dual carraigeway there is a gentle bend which could easily be taken above that speed, yet the vans sit about 200m past that ready to get people as they come into view (and they can just note down a motorcycles registration so we cannot get away that way).

Think one force is currently playing with equipment to catch you when you are 1km away.

However the detectors are not that much use against laser. All they will do is let you know you have been had. Only way round it is a detector and a jammer.

All the best

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