Deauville 650 mileage.. how high is too high?

[azra3l]

I need a new work bike, my poor old zzr600 cant handle the kind of mileage i am throwing at it these days, and its time to sell it while its still salvageable with some TLC that i can't afford.

my boss has lent me a grand for a new bike, sadly, i am thinking its gonna have to be a deauville. I cart a lot of stuff around for work, so it has to have luggage, and the 2002 model has bigger stock panniers than the previous years.

I know these bikes can rack up some insane mileage (its one of the reasons I want one. if the average for the last 2 months is anything to go by I'll be doing around 26k a year.) but how high is too high?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/honda-deauville-nt650v-black-2002-mot/1090449930

anyone have any experience with these bikes? anything to look for when buying used? I know about the head stock bearings, and if its anything like the Pan 1100 I'm guessing the swing arm is made of some form of cheese?

what else am I looking for when i go to view one?

[BravoCharlie]

I posed the same question lately as one came up below price range and i toyed with the idea. cosmetically, it had a few scuffs and 70k miles but was cheaper than the one you were looking at. Only thing i can't remember is what year it was.

back on point, I guess it all depends on the bike itself and how well it's been looked after. it's always worth having a look i guess, but for me i'd likely pay a grand for something else
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[azra3l]

i messaged him earlier asking how long it has on its MOT, is it sorned for any reason other than tax/insurance what kind of service history etc its got. I was going to wait for a reply and then offer him 750. that gives me a few quid to swap my insurance over and get a top box for it etc..

[BravoCharlie]

Good man

As I say, it's worth a look, dunno how he'll feel about the £750 offer but it's probably what I'd have offered too, at 26k miles per year i'd not be expecting it to be sold on for much afterwards though!

don't know if this is of any use:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-HONDA-ST1100-Pan-European-with-test-/331393641363?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d2899ab93

but thought i'd point it out. also - but I don't know much about them - i like the looks of the triumph trophy's. only issue i know of with them is starter motors but there could be more issues too!
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[azra3l]

thought about a pan, and a trophy, but they are both too big for the kind of riding i do. its 80% in, around or across central london.

fuel economy is an issue as well, my boss pays my petrol, but hes a nice guy and its a good company, i dont want to take the piss too much

[BravoCharlie]

the luggage is probably the main issue tbh, as there are some good bikes out there for the money at the minute. What do you carry your work stuff in at the moment, can i ask?
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[Shaft]

I don't know if any bike with 113K on the clock is a bargain for a grand, unless it's a Black Shadow or a Brough Superior.

I'm sure I've seen Dullvilles going for less with lower mileages.
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[azra3l]

A rucksack, but I make somewhere between 10 and 15 stops a day. It's apain in the arsen taking it off all the time, carrying it, a clipboard, camera, my lid, all the paperwork etc. Add in the fact that my waterproofs, fags, lunch all go in there as well..

Ideally I need a pannier for bike stuff and waterproofs/food etc. One for my work stuff and a top box for my lid.. it's not just a bike I need but storage for a mobile office..

[azra3l]

[Shaft]

I know they are meant to do mega mileages and I would be quite happy to buy a low mileage example, in the expectation of it going on forever, if I looked after it.

Not so sure I would fancy getting one that has already been to the moon and back, if I needed to rely on it every day.
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[azra3l]

That's a fair point, but the bike i am riding now isn't the most reliable or fit for purpose machine out there.. I bought it with an eye to doing it up when iwas working locally and only doing about 100 miles a week. It was cheap, mechanically sound just a bit of a shed.

Then my job changed and my 20 year old sports bike is starting to show her age with the work out she is getting.

There's nothing much wrong with it, but it needs a front to back service to get it fighting fit and ican't spare the money (our the time off work) to do it every 4k miles. It's still plenty capable of putting a smile on my face, and If i could afford it I'd keep it as a project.

Anyone wanna buy a zzr600 rideable project? ^^

[azra3l]

Just got this back..

10 months MOT

Sorned for tax / insurance reasons
Just got this back..


Used every day about 4 months ago

Serviced myself also previous keeper bikers normally do there own service!!

Mot certificate and log book available.

[garth]

Spend some of the grand on sorting out the ZZR.

Better the devil you know.
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[azra3l]

I can't do those kind of miles on it. The riding position is turning me into a cripple

[Rogerborg]

Before you even think about making an offer, you need to see the MOT advisories and consumables receipts for that bike, and go over it with a fine tooth comb. New tyes, but what else does it need doing? Brakes, shocks, exhaust, how are the cam chains, is the tank rusted to buggery inside, is the swing arm rotting away, has the shaft drive had any attention or have its owners assumed that they're maintenance free?

It's not a Pan Euro and I imagine that you'll struggle to find anyone who will buy it with that mileage, let alone with another 26K on it, so I'd consider it to be essentially disposable.

Factor in fuel and tyres and I imagine that you can run a 125 for a fair bit less even with chain replacements. You can put luggage on any bike.
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[sidewinder]

Does it need to be a deuville ? . You can get a decent divvy for that money.mines just passed 60k and passed its mot with no advisorys. Should suit London quite well
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[c_dug]

Sod that for a game of cricket. Too many miles, too much money.

My divvy 900 is an overall similar bike. Got mine on 32000 miles, with luggage for £950.

Just about knocking on 50,000 miles now and it's been an overall reliable bike, never left me at the side of the road for mechanical reasons.
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[Itchy]

Why the need for internal luggage?

There is a simple fix for this. That is to buy a top box place and bolt it to the seat.

As such CB500s, even the old NTV650 is in contention.

The old NTV650/600 is a tough old beast which can get insane mileages and suffer considerable abuse. I maintained (or rather didn't) my NTV650 with the tools in the bike tool kit.

But given enough time and miles most things on bikes become consumables
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[WD Forte]

A Deauville/NTV sound like the right type of bike for your needs.
Water cooled, shafty and not too heavy for heavy traffic London use

At 113K the tricky question is, how much life is left in it?
It may go another 50K ( 2 years at your mileage)
before getting all wanty and needy, maybe 100K, who knows?
I'd prefer an NTV with a top box and throw overs myself
They look practical, go for cheaper and the doughvilles plastic and built in panniers dont attract me much

here's a Deauville buyer guide whigh may be some use
https://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil_cooper/PhilsBikes94.html
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[sidewinder]

Getting about 55 mpg from my 600 divvy
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