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b.c
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: new to motorcycle Reply with quote
hi guys, i am 17 and wanted to get a 125cc motorcycle, i have got no experience in riding so here is a few questions.
1. how long does a provisional license last?
2. do i need CBT before my A1 lesson?
3. is the sinnis cafe 125 any good (love the look of it)
.thank you guys
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 04:45 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: new to motorcycle Reply with quote
brian118 wrote:

3. is the sinnis cafe 125 any good (love the look of it)
.thank you guys


Isn't that the old suzuki GN engine? If so, it will be fine. But - depending on your size and weight - it will have to work a bit to do 60, and (ime), is much happier at 50. Still, at least the cafe-ish bars will have you laid a bit lower - which can definitely help. Short oil intervals (1.5k), plus a good bit of TLC after riding in the wet, and tbh it's probably going to be about as good as any other new 4t 125 out there.
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
my partners little brother just picked one of these up,
its awesome, only 125 with an oil filter,
motor is great, handles pretty well, gets good mpg, and looks ace

i think its a good choice for a new biker
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: new to motorcycle Reply with quote
brian118 wrote:
Hi guys, I am 17 and [I] want to get a 125cc motorcycle. I have got no experience in riding so here are a few questions.
1. How long does a provisional license last?
2. Do I need CBT before my A1 lesson?
3. Is the Sinnis cafe 125 any good (love the look of it)

Thank you guys.


1. Indefinitely. However, the CBT that validates your provisionaL entitlement is only valid for 2 years.

2. You need to complete a CBT course before doing anything on road with a 125.

<Teflonian aside>
To ride a 125cc bike up to 11kW and 0.1kW/kg (pretty much any 4 stroke), you don't need to do anything more than a CBT. Just display L plates, don't use motorways, don't take a pillion.

You can get an A1 license using your own 125. You don't need any training (beyond CBT) to do so. Just book your motorcycle theory, module 1 and module 2 tests yourself. There's nothing hard in the tests, and several decent how to videos are available.

Your first vehicle test pass, including A1, gets the clock ticking on your 2 year "new driver" probationary period, so it's worth considering even though getting A1 doesn't let you ride a bigger bike.
</Teflonian aside>

3. Eh. As a bike, I'd rather gamble on a Sinnis than a Honda CBF or Duke 125. However, bear in mind that the Sinnis price doesn't include OTR or PDI charges, is a "parts" warranty and will very likely come with an "if serviced at a Sinnis dealer" condition on it, so you may end up spending not far off of CBF money to buy and own one, like for like.

That doesn't make a lot of financial sense as it'll lose value quicker than a CBF, even if it's a better bike.

If you buy Chinese branded and new, I'd suggest buying cheap. Lexmoto Street or Arrow, or Sinnis Max II or SP 125, forget about the warranty and self-service it.

The smart money goes on a used, good condition YBR or Varadero though.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
hmmmnz wrote:
, only 125 with an oil filter,


True - if you exclude the vanvan and HMC bikes such as the Classic, and the Skyteam V-Raptor SV125, etc. (which all use the same suzuki derived lump).
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
MC wrote:
£1600 would buy you a mint used Jap' 125

Would you recommend the Indian Japanese CBF or the Chinese Japanese YBR?

MC wrote:
tl;dr if I was buying a cheap Chinese bike, I'd buy a cheap Chinese bike

Yes.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 03 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
hmmmnz wrote:
my partners little brother just picked one of these up,
its awesome, only 125 with an oil filter,
motor is great, handles pretty well, gets good mpg, and looks ace

i think its a good choice for a new biker



My 125 varadero has a oil filter.......
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