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TheArchitect
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PostPosted: 08:23 - 07 Dec 2014    Post subject: Heated Gloves Reply with quote

my gloves are crap in the cold so was after a new pair. Considering heated gloves. What's the current people's favourite? Also what are the pros and cons of personal battery powered versus bike battery powered?

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PostPosted: 09:27 - 07 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some keis under gloves. They keep my hands warm, but squeeze my fingers, even when I bought some bigger over gloves, so I don't use them
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 07 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have the keis inner gloves and had to buy bigger non insulated gloves to go over them and a heat controller... They work well but it would have been better to get some heated outer gloves, for what this lot cost I could have bought a pair of gerbings or keis do their own outer glove too, just avoid Oxford.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 07 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personal battery power means you can fully kit up indoors before jumping on the bike. You aren't tethered to it, and you don't have to mess with bike wiring to add cabling and bring it out somewhere convenient. You can use them on any bike, and you can also wear them when out walking the dog.

However, it means making sure you always have sufficient battery charge for your journey. Disposables cost money, rechargeables cost time (and upfront investment for decent capacity), both need you to think about them.


Wired in to the bike is fit-and-forget. Hassle to start with, but then as long as you have a running bike you have power for your gloves. If you're doing long rides in winter, then being sure you still have power at the end of the day when the sun has gone down, you are getting tired and it's getting colder, is quite important.

Personally I fitted muffs (in addition to my heated grips) instead Smile
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 07 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Gerbing user here. As a sufferer of Raynaurd's heated gloves are pretty much vital for me.

I originally tried Exo2 stuff but went through 3 pairs of gloves in 12 months (although obviously only 1-2 months of use at each either end of the year) as the wiring kept breaking. I also found there Storm Rider vest far too big and bulky, although this was about 4 years ago so things may have changed.

I then changed to Gerbing gloves. What a revelation. Decent hand protection (the Exo stuff had none at the time), lifetime warranty on wiring (Exo had 12 months) and overall a better coverage of the whole hand in terms of heating. I soon got frustrated with the wiring though, so added a Gerbing heated jacket liner. This is made things much more convenient with the wiring running inside the jacket - I felt less like I was wearing idiot mittens. The heated collar also meant I could dispense with the Buffs.

At that point though the control of the heat wasn't fantastic, so I added on a warm-n-safe remote heat-roller. This is a 2-part remote. The first part lives in the pocket of the jacket and sits between the power connection on the bike and the inputs in the jacket for the glove/jacket power. The other part is wireless and simply attaches to bars/dash etc with Velcro. This gives the ability to separately adjust the temp of the jacket and gloves from a convenient control location rather than fumbling around trying to find the controller that's got wedged between your leg and the tank.

As for battery powered stuff, I've been out with a mate 3 separate times on a run to Whitby. Every time his battery powered gloves have run out of juice just before we got there, leaving him with cold hands for the rest of the trip. However, he also uses them every day for commuting and finds them spot on so the question comes down to what you want to use them for. Short journeys are OK with battery but otherwise stick with the hard wired stuff. Sticking with hard-wired also loses the bulk of the battery in the gloves which can interfere when trying to put your jacket on and cause issues if you have tight sleeves.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 07 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
I have some keis under gloves. They keep my hands warm, but squeeze my fingers, even when I bought some bigger over gloves, so I don't use them


Lol i'm having the same issue. Think the outer gloves just need to be broken in but it's too annoying and dangerous to break them in on the bike when you need to take your hand of the throttle to shake em. £120 inc battery well spent lol, i'm still using them though, sod that.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for the Gerbings, I'm using the Hybrid XR12 wired to bike. Yeah the 2012-13 edition had a lot of reliability issues (in controller and gloves), but my 2013-14 replacements are still going strong and an absolute god send. The later ones have a number of design improvements too. Warranty replacements were always turned round super quick too. We've only had a few frosty days down in here in London this year, but I'm still riding round with gloves on 2nd or 3rd hottest setting (green or orange). I only use the hottest (red) setting when it's sub zero.

Plugging the gloves in before setting off, only takes an extra 30secs and soon becomes part of your usual setting off routine of gearing up, popping ear plugs in, glasses-off-helmet-on-glass-back-on, turning camera on etc.

Sure, not as cheap as heated grips/muffs, but they're definitely my preference.

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PostPosted: 12:03 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the insight all. Sounds like Gerbings are decent in the later models.

I had looked at the Oxford range due to the low price but I've been told over and over again to stay clear of them. Budget is an issue for me at the moment as I'm on the market for a new bike so need to conserve as much pennies as I can.

In terms of usage, I mainly plan to use it for commutes, 30-45 mins each way. Rarely ride on weekends now that the weather has turned. For me the important thing is convenience so the less messing around with wires pre/post ride the better.

Anyone know any vendors who have a good selection of heated gloves in London? might we worth trying a few on before buying.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno, what size you are, but a mate of mine on LondonBikers is currently flogging a large pair:

https://londonbikers.com/forums/1099119/gerbing-hybrid-gloves

I believe he's also put them on ebay now, so be quick!

Otherwise, if you're anywhere near London Bridge, you're more than welcome to meetup and check out what my Gerbing's are like.

Yep, not cheap, but I've always figured they're a damned sight cheaper than freezing your fingers off, losing concentration, making a stupid mistake and trashing your bike.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arfa__ wrote:

Otherwise, if you're anywhere near London Bridge, you're more than welcome to meetup and check out what my Gerbing's are like.


Cheers Arfa__, much appreciated. I'm normally not too far from London Bridge, I work right by Tower Hill, although this week I'm spending a bit of time in sunny Birmingham.

PS. I'm a size medium on gloves so your mates ones may be a tad too big.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a pair of electric heated inner gloves which were great until the left hand wiring snapped causing a surge through the right hand burning the insides of all my fingers. Shocked

Never did try heated trousers due to an irrational fear of roasted nuts............
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LondonCommuter wrote:
For me the important thing is convenience so the less messing around with wires pre/post ride the better.


It probably takes me 30s longer to kit up with the heated gear than it does without. Don't forget that if you go down the battery route you'll have to charge. The batteries also make the gloves a bit bulkier so trying to get your sleeves over them may take longer than it does to plug the wires in and put your sleeves over the much thinner gloves.

Just a though - batteries aren't always as convenient as they appear on the surface. In fact the walk to the room where you leave the charger may take longer than the extra time it takes to put the wired gloves on Very Happy
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