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Snorty
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Importing bike bits from China - VAT? Reply with quote

If I'm importing sonmething from China with a value of around £250, I believe I am due to pay 20% + handling fee from Royal Mail.

How would customs even know the value of the items I'm importing? I don't want to be stung for ludicrous customs charges as this is supposed to work out cheaper.
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seller puts a customs declaration on the parcel with the value of the contents. Our customs pick this up then rape your wallet.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's VAT, duty and a handling fee to be paid.

https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-duty

The value and contents should be declared by the exporter, usually by means of a little declaration document stuck to the outside of the packaging.

However, there is a small chance that customs will miss the package which means you won't get a bill.

The exporters can also under value the item, for example, $250 worth of parts valued at $20, therefore no tax, duty or handling fees. Naughty, but from experience the stuff I buy from the Far East is regularly undervalued, not by my doing mind.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

will the classic "sample" not suffice?

to avoid duty etc?
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or Gift
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gifts valued at less than £35 are free of VAT, anything under £135 is free of Duty anyway.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't know how deep that HMRC and Parcel Farce / Royal Fail are going to spit-roast you until the bill arrives.

The only thing I'll suggest is that if the declared value is £15 or below, it should be nothing. However, you can't know for sure what the seller is actually going to declare, regardless of what they assure you before they have your money.

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PostPosted: 15:15 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it doesn't go above the value that I actually paid and believe the items are worth, I am not bothered, expecting to pay around £60-70 on top of it.

£0 would be an ideal amount, mind.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The only thing I'll suggest is that if the declared value is £15 or below, it should be nothing.


Unless HMRC have Royal Mail open the item for them and they decide it *is* worth more than £15 and take a stab at valuing it then billing you for it. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I read correctly that they can charge VAT on the actual shipping amount as well?

Item is £200 + £50 P&P.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Did I read correctly that they can charge VAT on the actual shipping amount as well?

Item is £200 + £50 P&P.


No, just the contents of the package.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/190023587/

This suggests that the landing cost will be £311
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 12 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Did I read correctly that they can charge VAT on the actual shipping amount as well?

Item is £200 + £50 P&P.

According to lihp's link, explicitly yes.

Most of the stuff that I've had from East of Suez has had the 'real' value put on it, i.e. the pennies it costs them rather than the marked up value that I've paid.
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