Covert Police Motorcycles Catching Drivers Using Mobile

[Dan100tdi]

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cc2_1418624275

[Tungtvann]

I certainly don't condone the use of mobiles phones WHILST driving, I've seen far too many accidents on the motorway which were the result of lack of attention and driving too close which may have been further compounded by using a phone, BUT it's a pretty dickish tactic to go nabbing drivers sat in traffic or at lights.

I've been sat in deadlocked traffic on the motorway before, not moving for minutes. Handbrake on, could switch the engine off if I wanted, and yes, I've used my phone. Am I deserving of getting fined? According to the law, yes.

[map]

OP post is from Australia. Where iirc phone must be in a cradle, not in your hand/lap.

If you can't use a phone while driving then imo it's a fine line if car is stationary. That's the accepted meaning of not moving. However, law may require car to be 'parked'. Although if engine off, as with the modern engines that turn off/on when stopped, car is effectively parked. Cannot be driven without engine on!

Agree with post above, using while on the move is a real hazard and should be as unacceptable as drink driving or murdering kittens.
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[bugeye_bob]

Good on them, Id apply for that job myself, too many twats struggle to drive never mind use a mobile and drive,
if caught more then once Id ban them for 3 months from the road, they would soon get the message.

[Ste]

Personally, I couldn't care in the slightest about people driving whilst using their phones. I'd much rather than police spent time and effort catching those who struggle to drive when not using their phones.

[Llama-Farmer]

Very fine line.

I absolutely condemn using it when on the move, particularly with new touchscreen smartphones where you can't feel the keypad
(I used to be able to type an essay of a text, 1-handed under the table at school without once having to check what I've written, but have to look the whole time when writing a text on my iPhone, takes a lot more attention and focus now that it used to, before I'd even say that someone well practiced in stealth texting was able to do so with virtually no attention lost to other activities)

However if you are stationary and put the phone away before you start moving, I think they should use individual officer discretion. I reckon they'd still be able to issue most tickets as from what I've witnessed on the roads, the driver will likely drive off still on their phone, in which case pull them and write them up. But if they put it away before the vehicle moves, its still breaking the law, but not really on the same level as when driving.
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[janner_10]

Typical low hanging fruit, no effort number bolsting.
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[Rogerborg]

Doesn't do a lifesaver before a u-turn at 0:25, has no right to lecture anyone on paying attention.
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[fw750x]

All the Drivers who were caught are all driving Vehicles Worth £10,000 or more a Hands Free kit can be bought for under £100 pounds.Slap it right up them they deserve the fine and points.

[defblade]

They're catching them at the lights, but we all know full well they were using them on the way up to the lights, and would carry on chatting away when the lights changed (once they'd noticed...).


I'd love that job. And it should come with 6 points per offence, and a fine of maybe £250, which would come with a "free" basic handsfree kit, so they'd have absolutely no excuse not to have their licence taken the second time.
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[grr666]

I wish we had this here, massive pet hate of mine.
I'd just like to see the roads being actually policed by people rather than
cameras.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

With our laws being silly about engine stopped and stuff, with regard to mobile phone it should be :

Thou shalt not touch thy phone, AT ALL, unless thou arst pulled over to the side of the road
Engine can be on, because I don't see how that could affect the user.
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[Rogerborg]

99% of the words posted to a forum are of no value to the world nor our own lives.

Granted, I've yet to post while riding.
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[rideslikean00...]

Another pointless law. You can sit a person inside an air conditioned cage with wipers and heated windows and even without a phone they still may drive like idiots anyway, while a rain soaked motorcyclist with a damp visor can have inferior visibility but still demonstrate superior road sense whether or not the driver in the cage has a phone going. Problem is tracking people using them. Seems like a lot of hot air about a law very tricky to enforce, when the root of the problem is people who can't drive in the first place.
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[Wonko The Sane]

Having seen someone nearly flatten the bike in front of me while we were filtering on the M60 because he was holding his phone near the steering wheel in queuing traffic (5-10mph) watching a film or whatever, easier to ban than try and differentiate different uses.

Last night I asked the gentleman next to me at the lights half way up the slip road "important tweet?" before riding off as the light went green. I could see he was on social media just at the moment before he'd need most attention.
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