Anyone play World of Tanks?

[mudcow007]

found this game a few weeks back (yeah i know its been around for ages)

an im officially hooked, currently rolling in a KV-1

anyone else play?

[Itchy]

I did for a while.

It is addictive because it's a skinner box.

I stopped for the following reasons:

It's a skinner box, I found myself pressing battle even though I wasn't enjoying it as they used subtle behaviour modifying techniques to hook you in. This is to make money.

It's rigged there is something unusual about WoT in that it doesn't follow the normal distribution curve of players. In that other MMO paid for or otherwise there is a hardcore of players these 'elites' normally stomp on the new guys and cause frustration making the new guys leave. This diminishes the user base and therefore causes the company to make less money.

WoT does not follow this distribution of super players you get good at 60% win rate and bad at 40% win rate. Which is a difference of 1 or 2 game win difference.

You don't see that in other games super players get 90% win rates and bad players get 10% win rates. In the 00s counter strike a team we formed (and have disbanded) had excellent teamwork and could dominate.

The rigging is done via the random number generator.

Whereby shot dispersion is +/-25% (50% variance) and shell penetration is also +/-25% (50% variance) add in lag and it is like throwing dice.

As such too much spooky stuff happens. Like bouncing a KV2 shell off an ELC. The match maker also sticks you in matches where there is no hope or possibility to win if you do start winning.

Maps also reduced tactics to peek a boo over time, there was no flanking just back and forth maps over time, this is a problem with the game engine.

Sure I've had some legendary battles like 2 KV2 holding off the entire enemy team on artic region. But those are rare.

It is a rather clever business model they use. But as said it stopped being fun and ended up being frustrating when the computer decides you MUST lose so your shells even fully aimed go miles away.
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[mudcow007]

funny you should mention the weird matching

there i was last night fighting with my trusty T28 "coke can", had one match an im fighting where i kicked some ass against same level tanks, next match im fighting against Vll tanks!?

i think i lasted about 30 seconds in that match


i'm not going to spend real money on it, but i can see the appeal in buying gold to "boost" your career

[andym]

It is EXTREMELY annoying at times, I've got to the stage where I can't have more than a few battles at a time before quitting.

I understand part of the mechanics of the game (Itchy isn't far off with the whole dice thing), but it's rigged to try keeping everyone at a 50% win rate so the good and bad players don't feel it's too hard or easy.

Also I've read somewhere (OK Here about it being rigged).... which I'm now believing.

I've recently upgraded to an IS-3, and off the top of my head I've played about 40 battles, my victory rate is around 28% and my survival rate is 7%.... and that's tier 6 tanks that seem to be able to damage me, but I can't damage them..... but I end up mainly in tier 10 battles where I can be blown up with 1 shot

It's been the same with all of the tanks I've bought, the first 50-100 battles are rubbish.... then they improve, my only problem with this new tank is every battle (win or lose) it costs me at least 10,000 credits more than I earned in the battle

[defblade]

Once you can get past the urge to reach Tier 10 (or even just the next tank "up"), it's a fun game. Don't worry about your stats, get a few tanks in the middle tiers and just enjoy. 5 is usually claimed to be the most fun; I prefer a couple higher. Once you get into tier 8 though, you'll regularly see 10s - this wasn't a problem in the early days as there would be one or two 10s on each team, tops. These days there's often 6 or 7 of them, and you're just dead in an 8.

E25 premium is the most fun tank in the whole game (but does cost real money). I do pay real money from time to time for it - I've played many hours, and got more enjoyment than from normal "paid for" games, so I don't really begrudge it. A bit of gold is handy for dismounting equipment and not losing crew training when you swap tanks.
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[Tungtvann]

I don't really like games like this, I'd rather pay 30 quid for a complete and fair game, than a pay to win game.

[mudcow007]

managed to get the KV-1 last night, 4 fights in. no kills an i'm lasting about 10 seconds

in most of the matches i was top ranked aswell - i dont get it

[RhynoCZ]

I used to play it, then some patches came and the game is no more playable for me. Plus it felt too much like a F2P + P2W.

I play War Thunder now, where's also an option to play with tanks. Much better gameplay, HW optimization and physical engine with much nicer graphics. You can also use tanks and planes in one battle, which is also nice.

I'm not trying to promote a thing here, but you can give it a go and you'll see yourself.
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[covent.gardens]

I spam gold with my yearly premium.

Paying to win like the conditioned fool I am.

54.5% winrate overall, so obviously rigged, someone with my skill and gold should be on 60+

[Moo.]

Most fun tank i found was the Sherman with the 104mm (Derp Cannon)
It was quick, could bounce a few rounds and the 104 packed a punch.

Then they changed the stats and it lost a bit of fun, but was still pretty good.

Played a few heavys and i find them boring as hell, just end up in a peek a boo shooting match because you have no help and are slow as Fruck.
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[stinkwheel]

Sounds like it's very authentic too then.

If you don't believe it what can be done against overwhelming armoured cavalry, you should read the VC citation of Jeremy Clarksons father in law who parachuted into Germany, took out four German tanks with a spring-loaded PIAT gun, was hit in the face to his serious injury then had at them with a 2" mortar fired from the hip. Holding their position for 6 days after the D-day landings until reinforced. All on foot.
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[andym]

[stinkwheel]

[Itchy]

[goto10]

[andym]

[andym]

Just to drag this thread back up again....

After singing the praises of WG, and paying for a premium account for 30 days.... I finally recorded a bit of a match to show that it cheats so 1 side WILL lose.

For people who don't want to click the link, I was in an IS and hiding behind a rock when a debatable shot hit me, so I moved forward and was hit again and again until being blown up, even though no part of the tank should have been visible where I was being shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBHbT4shyw&list=UUG1_a79neLOGPuGExSTeubg

I did move the camera around a bit to try finding who was shooting at me, and for some reason it's a bit darker after moviemaker and youtube mucked about with it.....

[Itchy]

[andym]

[Itchy]

[thx1138]

I lost like 20 games in a row today, whatever I did we lost

even if I did nothing, stayed still and hid in a tree, lost

whatever tank I was in, bounced, bounced, bounced, bounced, bounced, BOOM! DEAD

whatever tier I played, DETECTED, BOOM. DEAD.

then, I was in some crappy tank, surrounded, last man standing, still lost, but all of their shells were not damaging me in the slightest for a good minute or two before they captured the flag

[dransy]

I mainly play arty , but its pissing me off the hit radius is just bullshit and im sure its down to luck , throw in the reload time and aiming time and its pretty much pointless .

Then when i do hit someone it barely does any dmg , wank wank wank
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[covent.gardens]

Only thing I enjoy playing now is the Pz IC. Got 59% winrate, I am a good scout. I tend to scout pretty well, cause half the enemy team to die before I'm dead, then I quit and play another. I don't have the patience to play TD/Heavy any more.

[Razzy]

Been playing for ages, hit me up in game, Razzy
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[andym]

I joined a clan a few weeks ago and that has helped me a lot.... especially doing skirmishes.