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PostPosted: 16:44 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: First ride on the Varadero 125 Reply with quote

...and I tell you what - it's not bad this riding lark is it!? Laughing

Came off the bike at the end of my ride grinning from ear to ear. Took her out for a spin around the country roads in North Wales, seemed to remember my lifesavers, indication and general control. That said, my gear changing was utter sh*te. (Practise makes perfect I suppose).

Anyone who says you can't have fun on a 125 doesn't know how to have fun Rolling Eyes That said; when I pass my DAS - i'm fairly sure the 125 will seem like a pedal bike compared to a 600!

As you know, motorcycling is a constant process of self-learning and development and I have my first post-ride question!

My police motorcycling handbook (and my instructor) says that lane position should generally be positon 3 on a straight road (ie, just left of centre road markings), when cornering to the left, this position should be exaggerated (almost to the centre line), and when taking a right corner, position should move to 1 to gain greatest visibility around the bends in both situations.

However, if you've ever ridden on country roads, you'll know that oncoming vehicles often pass over onto your side of the road. So, my question (particularly directed towards rural riders), do you have any tips on road positioning?

At the moment, I'm just adjusting my positioning based on the road conditions and trying to stay slightly right of the centre of my lane.

As I am a Loser rider; I could do with any tips you could give! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: First ride on the Varadero 125 Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
...and I tell you what - it's not bad this riding lark is it!? Laughing

Came off the bike at the end of my ride grinning from ear to ear. Took her out for a spin around the country roads in North Wales, seemed to remember my lifesavers, indication and general control. That said, my gear changing was utter sh*te. (Practise makes perfect I suppose).

Anyone who says you can't have fun on a 125 doesn't know how to have fun Rolling Eyes That said; when I pass my DAS - i'm fairly sure the 125 will seem like a pedal bike compared to a 600!

As you know, motorcycling is a constant process of self-learning and development and I have my first post-ride question!

My police motorcycling handbook (and my instructor) says that lane position should generally be positon 3 on a straight road (ie, just left of centre road markings), when cornering to the left, this position should be exaggerated (almost to the centre line), and when taking a right corner, position should move to 1 to gain greatest visibility around the bends in both situations.

However, if you've ever ridden on country roads, you'll know that oncoming vehicles often pass over onto your side of the road. So, my question (particularly directed towards rural riders), do you have any tips on road positioning?

At the moment, I'm just adjusting my positioning based on the road conditions and trying to stay slightly right of the centre of my lane.

As I am a Loser rider; I could do with any tips you could give! Thumbs Up


I hardly ride in rural but when I do I prefer what would be position 2 in your road-craft book, just slow down more to compensate for the lack of viability. Hell- if your unsure or its putting you into awkward situations just slow down altogether.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: First ride on the Varadero 125 Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:


However, if you've ever ridden on country roads, you'll know that oncoming vehicles often pass over onto your side of the road. So, my question (particularly directed towards rural riders), do you have any tips on road positioning?

At the moment, I'm just adjusting my positioning based on the road conditions and trying to stay slightly right of the centre of my lane.


Golden rule is don't sacrifice safety for visibility. In essence, if you can't see there's nothing coming, within a safe distance to tuck back in out of the way of it, then you shouldn't be out on the centre line - slow down more, take a more conservative line, and come out the other side with not a scratch on any kitten.

It's all just practice.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My method is to adjust my position so that I can see the maximum distance ahead, and to adjust my speed so that I can safely react within that distance.

There's plenty of 'Advanced Cornering' videos on YouTube Smile
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where in North Wales are you?
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

under_rated wrote:
Where in North Wales are you?


Hanmer, Whitchurch. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
under_rated wrote:
Where in North Wales are you?


Hanmer, Whitchurch. Smile
Ah thought you might be a bit closer, was going to see if you fancied a ride.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to hear that you're enjoying it.

Don't sweat Roadcraft too much; we've seen videos of coppers putting themselves unnecessarily in danger while riding to The Holy System.

And you're quite right that you need to anticipate vehicles crossing to your side of the road. To the point where if they take your leg off, the Court of Appeals can overturn their liability and your payout.

So, sure, move to the right on the approach to a left hander to see a bit further around it, but don't feel that you have to hold that position all the way around. If in doubt, middle of your lane (or as far over as you want) and slow down.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The positions 1/2/3 are just for guidance.always ride to the road type conditions etc.i travel country roads everyday and usually find I'm in position 2 most often..
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:
I'd throw the motorcycling police handbook in the bin and learn my own style.


That would be position -4 wherever possible.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 22 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see your enthusiasm, glad you are enjoying it.

Tips for rural road riding -

Use hedges, walls etc to get a view of where the road goes in front of you. Look as far as you can see and don't just concentrate on the 50 yards in front of your bike.

Use the vanishing point principle if you don't know the road. Look at the road coming up in front of you, see where the road disappears, if this point is coming towards you, slow down. If its remaining at a constant distance proceed with a neutral throttle, if its going away from you accelerate.

Be aware that around the next corner there might be a tractor, a horse rider, shit on the road. If this happens look where you need to go, not where you think you will end up if you crash. Don't grab the brakes, squeeze them on progressively so you can still steer the bike.

Look after your bike, maintain it and make sure everything works like it should, then if you need it to do something it will. Wear the best gear you can afford.

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PostPosted: 03:00 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just take it easy to begin with, middle of the road and take it from there. Don't try to go flying into a bend knee out and rear end hanging off the saddle (ball bearing in the ear as my old boss used to say!) as that will probably only teach you how to fall off. Yes you will learn that too but steady as she goes until you gain the neccessary experience.
Confidence will build as you get better then over-confidence will push you back a little before you move on up some more.

You do get the 1 / 2 / 3 road positions as well as the 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 positions and probably someone advocating 6 / 7 as well!
No-one showed me any of that when I started but I soon learned that the best position is the one where you are in control. Smile

The Varadero is a great little bike and very agile on country roads but as has been mentioned, look out for cows, sheep, horses, CHICKENS? yeah and of course all the various makes of manure.

Keep it between the hedges............... Shocked
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
under_rated wrote:
Where in North Wales are you?


Hanmer, Whitchurch. Smile


If you go to J and S in Northwich give me a shout. I'll join you for a bacon sandwich and coffee! (Only £2!!!)
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:
I'd throw the motorcycling police handbook in the bin and learn my own style.


Remember to include how to pass parking cars in that.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:
I'd throw the motorcycling police handbook in the bin and learn my own style.


Police riders are highly trained, and ride reasonably fast bikes very well. You crashed into a wall.
I'd reach in the dustbin and dig out the book if I was you!
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 25 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
If you go to J and S in Northwich give me a shout.


I'll most definitely take you up on that offer 1198. Smile

I'm gradually expanding my journeys and confidence from town - town / village to village. If you haven't already, get yourself over to Overton / Whitchurch and Llangollen - some beautiful roads out here.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda Varadero XL 125, a great little big bike, the main thing is to relax, if your riding all tensed up that will translate through the bike Shocked .
+1 for the Police roadcraft book, ride safe and have fun Very Happy .
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 28 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:


I'll most definitely take you up on that offer 1198.


Once I finish work tomorrow morning I'm off for the rest of the week. If there's acleardayforecast and want to give me a shout By all means do. If you would prefer a more local spot to Whitchurch I'll bow to your more local knowledge! I'll probably try to get a few miles in while I can. My thermals are reasonable!
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