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wr6133
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: NINJA 250R Review,Help Reply with quote

RideOrDie wrote:


what is the best tuning advice, i have been told rejetting
exhaust and air filter, what jet kit do i use or in general how do i tune and what to use as i will be showing this forum to my mechanic so i can purchase the parts and he can tune it up for me


Generally speaking you want to make the exhaust flow more freely and the filter to ram more cold air in (with bigger jets doing the same for fuel).

RideOrDie wrote:

people will proply say get a bigger bike or ninja 300
well i like ninjas, ninja 250r are 2.5k
ninja 300 are 3.5-4.5k


Or get a ZXR400 and restrict it to comply with A2. Proper IL4 not some commuter twin with fairings. Also cheaper than either of the above.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: NINJA 250R Review,Help Reply with quote

RideOrDie wrote:
what is the best tuning advice

Don't.

Now go troll some other forum Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZXR400 are nice looking bikes
but i just want a ninja 250r
and do some decent tuning,
i know tuning it will cost about £500
for filter,exhaust and jets
which im happy to pay for

but what jets, air filter do i need
and is gp carbon exhuasts fine to use which they are selling on ebay for
£120-£150

and people say dont tune up get bigger, well what if your happy with the speed of the bike and looks
and just wanna tweak it a little more to make myself feel better
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accept the bike for what it is or get a bigger one literally throwing money away
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you hope to achieve by spending £500 on tuning? Presumably you're not happy with the speed of the bike if you're wanting to spend £500 tuning it?

If you want more power then by far the easiest and cheapest way of doing that is to buy a faster bike. Wink

I seriously doubt you need (or will use) the slight power gains a race can and K&N filter might give you so don't kid yourself. If you want a noisy exhaust then get whichever one you like the look and sound of.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

See my posts on your last thread regarding tuning your YZF R125. All of those points are still relevant. In addition to that, because it's a Kawasaki you will be able to add a two stroke expansion chamber. Normally these two stroke expansion chambers are only relevant on... well... two strokes. However, all four stroke Kawasaki bikes will take to the expansion chamber very well, giving much better top end power.

Remember to use this in conjunction with the ground up power band dust in the correct fuel/dust ratio and also a 750cc big bore kit.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put a nitrous kit on it and watch it fly for 30 seconds before self destructing.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get a mk1 fire blade and restrict it - done

that and when you're able to have a big boy bike you can just restrict it, like I did with my ZZR600
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 23 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flux capacitator for huge gainz
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Initially I thought this dude was a troll, maybe not.
I only say that as we all agree it's rather futile trying to tune a 250R, it's knocking out a certain amount of power, that's what it's designed to do. There's no obvious restriction, no easy ways of extracting much more that it's doing already (you can only piss with the cock you've got, etc etc!).
However I've spent money on tuning a 125 - not even a 2 stroke one, but a Chinese Honda copy, complete with 80s(?) pushrods engine technology.
Why did I do it? I'd three other bikes available, all much quicker. I found it amusing, and enjoyed making mine different to Ms 1198s similar bike. I enjoyed spending time researching the 'best' (read most appropriate) gear. New carb. New air filter. Big bore kit. Gearing mods. Fitting them.
Was the money spent on my little 125 worth it? On a £ per power ratio, no. It raised the top speed by 5mph.
Did I enjoy myself? Certainly. Would I do it again? Probably, were Ms 1198 not now known as NinjaGirl and the proud owner (ironically) of a 250R and so hopefully soon to outgrow (not literally!) her 125.
So, TL,DR,
Maybe he's tuning it for his own satisfaction, to make it different, to make HIS?

Ps if anybody wants to buy a cheap Chinese '125' give me a shout!
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/maximumpsi/Ninja%20250RT/IMG_0434.jpg

Do that.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which part of that does he get for his five hundred ponds? Razz
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Which part of that does he get for his five hundred ponds? Razz


Could easily be done with a non intercooled setup on £500 budget if he has fabrication skills.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesn't. Wink
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain. wrote:

Do that.


Someone do that for me Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Patient Sigh]... I hear there's a new Dumb & Dumber movie out....have you seen it yet? Was it your inspiration for these threads?

Oh-Kay... R125 thread.. you were told quite explicitly what you might possibly achieve trying to tune a tiddler; how much it would cost, and the 'real world' difference t just WOULDN'T make...

You were also told, if you want a faster bike.. fit a better rider...

And I seem to Recall, you had barely had the R125 legally on the road a week then, little more than a fortnight ago....

SO..... you actually GOT your A2 licence since we last spoke?

Or is this this Ninja-Plan just more fantasy finking?

But to continue pissing on your parade.. your sums don't stack up..

You dont want to buy the Ninja 300 that is minutely faster than the Ninja 250, cos they cost £500-£1000 more.. so reckon to buy the cheaper 250 and spend the difference NOT managing to make it even as fast as the 300? AND paying a mechanic to do mods, which if declared will probably make it MORE expensive to insure than the 300, while reducing reliability and resale.... that makes sense dunnit?

EVEN if you were to follow the path of the CZ Turbo-Ninja-Twin...I think they only just got the sort of power, 60bhp or so (outside A2 licence limits) of an 'old' ZXR400..

You could pick up one of them, or any umber of 50+ bhp bikes for a few hundred quid, no mods required.... and ride it other than in accordance with your licence if you so wish..

And you could even slap a Tyga fairing kit on it to make it look more 'Ninjarish' if you REALLY have to fuck about with the thing AND your dedication to following fashion IS the over riding impulse here....

BUT till you learn to ride, and ride well; you would STILL be better off spending your money on petrol, just riding, getting miles under your belt, 'cos if you want a faster bike... fit a better rider ....and you are STILL a two week wonder barely out of CBT.

RideOrDie... as before, either will do, carry on!
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm, GPZ500s?

at least half the price of an EX250, use the money saved for the extra insurance
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going by your thread, you haven't even ridden a ninja 250, so how do you know you wont be satisfied with its performance?

Invest the £500 or so that you'll use on tuning towards a bigger bike and stop cunting about .
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely just enjoy the bike for what it is. Tuning it is just going to increase your running costs (fuel, parts etc), possibly reduce reliability, and in the end it's still going to be slower than a 500cc commuter.

There's plenty of fast bikes around for cheap money that you can get after you've finished your restriction period. Put the 500 quid away for a gsxr1000, r1 etc for when you can ride them. Either that or save it for consumables etc for your bike.

If the 250 doesn't tickle you when you ride it, then it's doubtful that it will after it's tuned.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, having owned a 250r and got rid by means of a bumper spanking, I can tell you there isn't much else you can get out of these things, at least nothing feasibly worthwhile.

I did my fair share of reading up on the 250r before getting mine and the best you can do for your budget is make it more reliable, not necessarily add performance. And to be fair the reliability isn't bad as it is off the shelf so really I'd save the ponds and put it toward a bigger capacity model.

That said, I've thoroughly enjoyed the bike. As a commuter, and city rag it's ideal.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Ninja Reply with quote

I simply say what can i do
i got told
Jets,Induction,Exhaust
on youtube top end before 95
after 110

ive seen people on standard go 110
so if they had jets,induction, exhaust they maybe go faster

but that doest interest me i want acceleration (0-60)

everyone says buy a bigger bike, i dont like any bike in A2 licencse
i cba to buy a bike a restrict it, i have been told Ninaj250 is quick
0-60 in 7seconds
maybe if i can drop a little off it ill be happy

so why everyone chattin rubbish always moaning saying get bigger
im just asking advice what do i buy or do to increase acceleration im happy to spend money on it

as i like the bike, i.e if you like a look of a car and u want to make it quicker you would do it
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 24 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Ninja Reply with quote

RideOrDie wrote:

so why everyone chattin rubbish always moaning saying get bigger



because it's the most cost effective way to get the power or performance you say you're looking to get.

RideOrDie wrote:

im just asking advice what do i buy or do to increase acceleration im happy to spend money on it


advice is, you'll spend a lot of money for little difference, more cost effective to buy a bigger bike with the option of restricting it down to make it A2 compliant

RideOrDie wrote:

as i like the bike, i.e if you like a look of a car and u want to make it quicker you would do it


there is a lot more space for adding and swapping components on a car, the way in which they are built and perform is different to a bike giving the base car more potential for tuning to make a difference.


You're asking for advice, you're getting the advice but you're not liking the answer you're getting.



time to change the question?
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