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PostPosted: 18:03 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Sports Bikes and Getting Old Reply with quote

I know I'm going to be accused of doing a Shereen but I'm not that fussed. I'd like to know what options there are of making my bike more comfortable. My wrists and back ache after an hour of riding now. It's a late carb'd Fireblade that really isn't iconic like the early ones, so it's not worth much to sell and I've owned it so long I know the history behind it, and it's never missed a beat. This is what puts me off just buying a new bike.

I'm not sure I'd like to just rip the fairings off it and put handlebars on, but I'm not sure if there are any other options. I don't think putting handlebars on with fairings is possible.

The MTFU pills are really pricey. Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some bar risers will help a lot.giving you a more upright position kind of sports touring Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top yokes

https://www.topyokes.com/fix_the_painful_riding_position:/184

RRP = £125.00
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LSL offer super bike bar conversions which fit with the fairing, although you do need to cut it down and in some instances Thumbs Up

https://www.lsl.eu/php/index.php#artikelliste.php?herstellerModell%5B0%5D=12&herstellerModell%5B1%5D=65
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LSL offer super bike bar conversions which fit with the fairing, although you do need to cut it down and in some instances Thumbs Up

https://www.lsl.eu/php/index.php#artikelliste.php?herstellerModell%5B0%5D=12&herstellerModell%5B1%5D=65
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrm:

I wish I could see the difference between
https://www.motorcycle-road-and-race.co.uk/gilles-variobar-with-riser-honda-cbr-900-rr-fireblade-95-99

and the handlebar kit.

Topyokes.com have terrible customer service (search here) and stupidly long waiting times. Also you need to add vat to their prices.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in these conversions, as I can't reach the bars (left side) on sports bikes, so have missed out on all the best ones. I've often thought this might be a way I could get to experience one or two of them in the future. But, doesn't just changing the bar position make for a completely "wrong" set up as regards footrest position? Wouldn't you need to change this too? I suppose it would depend on the bike and the individual?

Someone keeps telling me to go and buy a ZX10R and do this, and says to drop the footpegs a bit, but not sure how much this would affect ground clearance. Anyone here done it all on a sports bike?
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I'm interested in these conversions, as I can't reach the bars (left side) on sports bikes, so have missed out on all the best ones. I've often thought this might be a way I could get to experience one or two of them in the future. But, doesn't just changing the bar position make for a completely "wrong" set up as regards footrest position? Wouldn't you need to change this too? I suppose it would depend on the bike and the individual?

Someone keeps telling me to go and buy a ZX10R and do this, and says to drop the footpegs a bit, but not sure how much this would affect ground clearance. Anyone here done it all on a sports bike?

an older friend of a friend got a brand new zx10 this year.
after about 50 miles he decided he had bought the wrong bike for him.
he is quite tall with a long leg short body ratio.add to that knackered old knees and he was spending most of his ride with his feet off the pegs.
so we lowered his pegs(takes about a minute per side on that bike)drops them about 20mm plus a bit of time adjusting gear leaver and brake posision and he found it much better.
ive had a go on an r1 with the adjustable clip ons and yes you get a lot of adjustment without having to cut farings etc but they made the bars feel really wide to me(person whos bike it was said"once you get used to the comfort you ignore the rest")
would aftermarket rearsets have some adjustment down bank?
or are they aimed more to get pegs up and back?
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTFU.

(Apart from Chickenstrip, he's my fav....)
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to ask how old the OP is, as IMO age has nothing to-do with being able to get comfy on a bike, 90's super-bikes compared to the current crop of super-bikes is like chalk and cheese 90 bikes were in comparison like luxury barges, I have a new Blade, for me being able to adjust the foot peg position has made the world of difference to all round comfort
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
MTFU.

(Apart from Chickenstrip, he's my fav....)


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PostPosted: 22:27 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

while you like your blade and you have got used to the things it does.
it might be time to accept that its not the bike for you anymore.
or it might be time to do some back exercises .
it might be your rear shock is on its way out and now it hurts your back.
it might be that its just time for a new bike.
go out and try loads,find one that fits,enjoy that.
just because your blade is worth very little resale is no reason to keep it if it hurts you to ride it,(that leads to giving up)then what will you do for road fun?
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 28 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing wtf is "doing a Shereen" ?
I've clearly missed something in my extended absences from BCF Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 28 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Laughing Laughing wtf is "doing a Shereen" ?
I've clearly missed something in my extended absences from BCF Laughing


It's either shaving your head in order to become blau's object of desire or pretending that you've bought some piece of exotica.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 28 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just keep on suffering and moan like fuck about everything - that's what old people do Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Laughing Laughing wtf is "doing a Shereen" ?


She wanted to buy an R1 or something and put bar risers.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
exotica


Can you define exotica?

Shrunken heads?
Small oriental boys?
Erotically-inclined snakes?
Large phallic African objets d'art?
A Ural?
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It's either shaving your head in order to become blau's object of desire

A pointless exercise of Sinead-O'Connorly proportions, surely, it being a well known fact that the only person blau finds alluring is himself. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:

A pointless exercise of Sinead-O'Connorly proportions, surely, it being a well known fact that the only person blau finds alluring is himself. Wink


cross him off your list ... don`t be too disappointed will you Wink
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing I'm heartbroken Laughing
If I had known he was available, I would have left Bonny Minh Dinh alone immediately.

On the subject of the original post, what's actually the problem?
Lots of old guys get sports bikes as part of their mid life crisis, there must be a comfortable one the OP can ride if all those old duffers ride them.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep the bike and work on your fitness! Especially core strength.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

base wrote:
I have to ask how old the OP is, as IMO age has nothing to-do with being able to get comfy on a bike, 90's super-bikes compared to the current crop of super-bikes is like chalk and cheese 90 bikes were in comparison like luxury barges, I have a new Blade, for me being able to adjust the foot peg position has made the world of difference to all round comfort


You gotta be kidding me! Today's bikes are way more comfy. Some late 80s and 90s bikes were like a world of pain. I once fell off an '89 FZR400 and realised that hitting the tarmac was actually more comfortable than riding the d@mn thing.

Ditto with the ZXR 750s of the early 90s. Could only see my shoulders in the mirrors, touring was only for the masochistic and the stabbing pain in the knees made playing rugby seem like a day of gentle crown, green bowling. Add in a rear shock which was less 'shock' and more 'sh!t' and the big, green machine was properly painful. We all rode them and I loved mine more than any other bike but, well, ow.

As for the early blades, they were built in such a way as to completely crush the nads. Nothing like a pillion crashing into my back under hard braking to clear the sinuses.

Bike design has improved massively and I can actually ride a bike without excruciating pain. Personally, if I were the OP, I'd go for something a bit more touring-oriented like a ZX12R and check it thoroughly for anything about to go boom (i.e. oil leaks etc...). They were the king of bikes as they can tour, scratch and carry a pillion provided the pillion takes a brave pill. They are fantastic and thinking about it, I might get one myself.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the circles I mix in many are tradin onto more general purpose bikes .. street bikes .. those that retain their hypersports bikes usually keep a more upright position street bike ..

ie suzuki v-strom 1000 abs grand tourer

Tiger 800 XC

CB1000R ABS

Ducati Hypermotard 796 Whistle

basically cos the ridin position especially around town does their wrists and or back in..

but some refuse to part with even if the millage on said hypersports bikes shrinks to a minimum...

PS.. me ZZR1400 wit bar risers has proven very comfortable.. not sure if this would be of any use though... Thinking

PpS.. the ridin position of an fz 400 `88 ZxR 750 H2 and R1 5VY are almost identical.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
On the subject of the original post, what's actually the problem?


My wrists kill after about 20 minutes. After half an hour my hands start to go numb and get tingling.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 29 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being quite close to 60 I prefer riding my '01 R1 with Harris rearsets set in the highest/furthest back position than my '90 Exup1000.Luckily,I have no wrist or back problems but I have found that gripping the tank with my knees helps to take weight off my upper half.

Has the OP looked at the angle of the levers?Is the clutch lever set so that the fingers rest on the top of the lever in line with the arm?Several people that I have helped with this have found that 5 mins adjusting all of the control levers have found a big differance in the way that the bike rides afterwards Thumbs Up
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