Riding with a Pillion passenger on a CBT, need advice

[Rjw1993]

Hi guys, I'm looking for some advice and am a little lost, so I thought I'd ask here.

The other day, I was stupid enough to give my friend a lift on my 50cc moped while he did not have a helmet, we got on and went two minutes up the road when a police car saw us and pulled me over.

I was asked to get in the car, some questions were asked, forms were filled out, and they explained to me that my bike was going to be seized, I was told to get it back, I need to pay a £150 fine + £10 a day for storage, I co-operated with them, as I knew that what I had done was a very stupid thing to do.

I am to pick up the bike tomorrow, however what really worries me is what happens next? I know I could go to court or recieve a fine, but what's the most likely final outcome of this? It's really worrying me and personally I believe I deserve everything I get, but what are the chances of losing my license? are they high? without my bike, I will struggle to get to work and could lose my job. only info I can give is that I am 21 and that I am not entirely sure wether my CBT has expired or not.

[dydey90]

It sounds like you need to repeat your CBT and I'd take it with a different training school if you didn't know these things.

The certificate lasts two years, so check when you did it.

You can't take passengers on a CBT and even if you could, said passenger must wear a helmet.
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[wr6133]

As said CBT is valid for 2 years. However if you have a full car licence and passed a CBT it is permanently valid for 50CC mopeds, you don't need L plates and I think you can carry a pillion.

So if you have a car licence don't worry.

If you don't then you best learn to tie a noose and find a nice looking tree.

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[duhawkz]

[duhawkz]

Double post
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[wr6133]

Edit - ^Ninja'd by someone that could be bothered looking

I was under the impression that a full cat B (car) + CBT = Full moped (cat p?)hence no L plates, no need to renew CBT (for 50cc) and carry pillion. I could be wrong though on the pillion bit if I'm honest I can't be bothered to look in to it the OP can access google.

[duhawkz]

Snooze ya loose
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[pinkyfloyd]

Chances are you'll get the standard 3 points and £60 fine. You'll be able to contest most of what they will try and pin on you (No L plates and pillion on a moped) as they always assume a ped is L plated. But the lack of helmet you are dead to rights on so that is probably all they will be able to pin on you.
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[Snowdonia Rider]

Can't your parents pay £10 a day to keep you in storage?
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[Rogerborg]

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Maybe it's not a first offence and that's why it's being seized?
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[Matt B]

[jeddy11]

As already asked why was the bike seized ? that's usually a no insurance jobby ??

Does driving otherwise in accordance to licence apply here ? still shouldn't have bike seized.

not enough information here so i call untrue story ..
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[MattEMulsion]

I'm going for driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence and yes it can be seized for that offence under Section 165 of the Road Traffic Act.
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[The Tot]

A good 10 years ago, I got pulled by having my dad on the back. Now my dad was a full moped licence holder by virtue of passing his car test donkeys years ago, but I only had a CBT. Would have been fine if my dad was piloting and I was riding shotgun.

Either way, I only got away with a repremand for "driving without accordance to my licence!" - no points!

So if said passenger was your dad, wearing a lid, and both of you were insured, that's the least you could get away with.

Dad explained to the copper that I was only doing the decent thing and picking my dad up from a night broadcasting shift from the BBC, and that the L plates were for me.

Other mates who did similar things got 3 points and £60 for the offence.
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